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Comment by throwawaykf05

10 years ago

What if I claim you are rich enough to donate to charities of not only your choice, but my choice as well. Will you donate to arbitrary charities that arbitrary people ask you to? Just because you have money does not mean we get to tell you what to do with it.

>Even a delay in getting people online is better for the people's interests than locking them into a shitty closed system for the long-term.

That's because you have the luxury of having Internet access and are not affected by lack of it. Why don't you let those without any access at all get some access and let them decide whether they want to be locked in or not? Or are you saying you know what they want better then they do?

> What if I claim you are rich enough to donate to charities of not only your choice, but my choice as well.

High inequality and mega-rich charity are a related issue. Rich people is not contributing with taxes as they should. If that were the case the states will have more resources to help where help is needed.

This was in the news some time ago: "Germany's super-rich have rejected an invitation by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to join their 'Giving Pledge' to give away most of their fortune. The pledge has been criticized in Germany, with millionaires saying donations shouldn't replace duties that would be better carried out by the state."

I completely agree with that position. The state, voted by its citizens, should decide not the super-rich even when they have good intentions.

Unfortunately neither does any one if us know what the unconnected want. Let's not pretend we do.

So, given that, we're doing what we would've wanted to be done if we were in their position.

Locking me into a particular website (or a set of) , especially the one which misuses my personal information is not something i want to be locked into.

Hence, we shouldn't stand by silently letting them be locked into "Facebook and partners".

Facebook is so asking for it, this time.

  • > So, given that, we're doing what we would've wanted to be done if we were in their position.

    Actually, I'd rather get any connectivity I could get.

> decide whether they want to be locked in or not

is the same logic as, "let people sell themselves into slavery". Sure, who is X to stop someone from selling themselves into slavery, right? But it's also an extreme asshole response to a situation where a rich and powerful slaver goes to poor people and says, "my goal is to help you, when you choose to become my slave, I will clothe and feed you and even educate you, I'm doing this to help you" and someone criticizes that.

It doesn't matter if it's not MY business to stop FB or take away others' freedom to use FB. FB is still doing this to gain power, and the ramifications of this long-term are terrible. And your statement amounts to "FB has a right to lock people in (and to misrepresent their motives), and people have a right to choose to be locked in" which is a shitty pathetic reply to my criticism.