Comment by qwertyuiop924
10 years ago
So it seems that my innocent suggestion that Linux isn't perfect may have spawned a tiny... massive holy war. Great. You know what? SmartOS is fantastic. It's great. But Linux isn't terrible. They both have their flaws. Like SmartOS not having a large binary footprint, and not having the excellent package repositories. And the fact that every partisan of one hates /proc on the other. And the fact that KVM is from linux. And that the docker image is actually a pretty good idea. Or the fact that SMF and lauchd were some of the inspirations for systemd. Okay, now I'm just tossing fuel on the fire, by the bucketload.
Personally, I run linux on my desktop. Insane, I know, but I can't afford mac, and the OSX posix environment just keeps getting worse. Jeez. At this rate, Cygwin and the forthcoming POSIX environment from MS will be better. But anyways, I'm not switching my system to BSD or Illumos anytime soon, despite thinking that they are Pretty Cool (TM). Why? The binary footprint. Mostly Steam. Okay. Pretty much just Steam. Insane, I know, but I'm not running (just) a server.
So in summary, all software sucks, and some may suck more than others, but I'm not gonna care until Illumos and BSD get some love from NVIDIA.
And why do you care what a crazy person thinks? Oh, you don't. By all means continue the holy war. Grab some performance statistics, and hook in the BSDs. I'll be over heating up the popcorn...
> Like SmartOS not having a large binary footprint, and not having the excellent package repositories.
http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/building-packages-at-scale.ht...
> And the fact that KVM is from linux.
Actually that's great that it's from Linux, because one major point of embarrassment for Linux is that KVM runs faster and better on SmartOS than it does on Linux, because Joyent engineers systematically used DTrace during the porting effort:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwAfJywzk8o
> Insane, I know, but I can't afford mac
Once you're able to afford one, you won't care about the desktop every again, because your desktop will JustWork(SM).
> but I'm not gonna care until Illumos and BSD get some love from NVIDIA.
NVIDIA provides regular driver updates for both Solaris and BSD. I bought a NVidia GX980TX, downloaded the latest SVR4 package for my Solaris 10 desktop, and one pkgrm && pkgadd later, I was running accelerated 3D graphics on the then latest-and-greatest accelerator NVIDIA had for sale.
> By all means continue the holy war. Grab some performance statistics, and hook in the BSDs.
They take our code, and we take theirs; they help us with our bugs, and we help them with theirs. BSD's are actually great. BSD's have smart, capable, and competent engineers who care about engineering correct systems and writing high quality code. We love our BSD brethren.
...Annnd the BSDs involved. Now all we need is some actual fans, and the Linux hackers should start to retaliate...
But good to know that the Solaris and BSD NVIDIA drivers work. If they work with lx-branding, I might actually consider running the thing.
>Once you're able to afford one, you won't care about the desktop every again, because your desktop will JustWork(SM).
Yeah, no. It seems like OSX is making increasingly radical changes that make it increasingly hard for applications expecting standard POSIX to run. By the time I get the cash, Nothing will work right.