Comment by woah
10 years ago
If you're going to use a Mac, you're trusting Apple already. How does using iCloud make you trust them more?
10 years ago
If you're going to use a Mac, you're trusting Apple already. How does using iCloud make you trust them more?
Because Apple doesn't have a mechanism to access files on your Mac, while they do have a mechanism to access files on iCloud. This means someone guessing your security questions, or somebody with a warrant, or somebody abusing their access rights can get to your files.
They do provide the OS, so they implicitly have access to all your files at a level that dropbox would have a hard time achieving.
> so they implicitly have access to all your files
If you can demonstrate how Apple has access to my files on an OS X installation with no iCloud configured, I will round up a massive bounty.
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I wouldn't use a Mac, either :)
And if you're using Ubuntu, you're trusting package managers, and if you're using Gentoo, you're trusting original developers (how often do you audit source code?)
>And if you're using Ubuntu, you're trusting package managers, and if you're using Gentoo, you're trusting original developers
This is correct. Consider, however, the motivations of the people involved. Apple's motivations are to make money from you. Debian's motiviations (intentionally avoiding Ubuntu here) are to make a good user-centric system. Packages are signed by named individuals that I can personally get to know and trust, and with an accessible process - I can download their package sources and build or verify or tweak them the same way that the maintainer can, report bugs and ask questions directly to them, etc. I trust this model much more than I trust the model of a company who, at the end of the day, has a bottom line and will make compromises to ensure it remains where they need it.
Apple is very well known for using proprietary formats, adapters, you name it. Apple's cloud is also write-only, they intentionally make it difficult for you to pull data out of it and interop with other services. These decisions serve the company's interests, not yours.
>how often do you audit source code?
You would be surprised!
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It's interesting because at some level, particularly with closed source products trusting the company developing the product is important. Apple have made some effort to stand up for the privacy of their users. Dropbox on the other hand have board members who support and have authorized warrantless wiretaps:
http://www.drop-dropbox.com/
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That's exactly right and what people complain about. That Dropbox betrayed the trust they(users) were giving to them(Dropbox).
I don't necessarily agree with them, but that's the sentiment here.
Edit: by the way, regarding open source projects, it doesn't matter if you don't look at the code personally. Somebody else does, and if there is problem with it, it becomes a huge public scandal sooner or later.