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Comment by noisem4ker

10 years ago

>why wouldn't any local media playback seek backwards and reconstruct the full frame?

Most codecs/players do. VLC used to be criticized for being different in that regard. One possible advantage is istantaneous seeking, as there's no need to decode all the needed frames (which could amount to several seconds of video) between the nearest I-frames[1] (the complete reference pictures) and the desired one.

[1]: plural, because prediction can also be bidirectional in time

The use of incomplete video frame data for artistic purposes is called "datamoshing".

I try to use VLC when I can because it offers intuitive playlist support, but for high-resolution H.264 and friends I usually have to switch to Media Player Classic.

VLC is willing to let my entire screen look like a blob of grey alien shit for 10 seconds instead of just taking a moment to reconstruct frames.

And its hardware acceleration for newer codecs is balls. Sucks because otherwise, it's right up there with f2k for me.

  • I stopped using VLC when I found mpv [0]. I really like it because it exposes everything from the CLI, so once you're familiarized with the flags you're interested in using, it's easy to play anything. For everyday usage it "just works" too, as expected of any video player.

    [0] https://mpv.io/

  • >VLC is willing to let my entire screen look like a blob of grey alien shit for 10 seconds instead of just taking a moment to reconstruct frames.

    Yes, this is what I was talking about, and yes, specifically for VLC. Plus it's not like playback is so taxing that all cores are pegged at 100% during playback. When I seek, VLC should get off its ass and scramble to come up with the correct full frame then. I'll wait.

  • I recently bought a camera that has 4k video recording. VLC just gives up playing the video. Even Windows Media Player can handle it. No idea what's going on, but I was really surprised and disappointed with VLC.

    • See if you can cut a small segment and submit it as a sample to ffmpeg. Hell, see if ffprobe and ffmpeg can play it. Happy to help, if you've got enough upstream bandwidth.

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Isn't the other advantage that VLC can play incomplete movie files? Any other players I have tried 'crash' on incomplete torrents, when VLC just fails until it finds the next I frame.