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Comment by crooked-v

10 years ago

> more easily transition

Why do you assume that people with their time taken by (almost certainly physically exhausting) make work jobs will have an easy time looking for other employment?

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generic_user  10 years ago

Because they will be conditioned to a routine of getting up at 7am and getting to work by 9am putting in there hours and doing that five days a week.

People underestimate how important this is. When you are out of work people have a tendency to adopt sporadic sleep habits and lifestyle. It can be a big shock just trying to get up at a set time each day and getting to specific place with the expectation that you have 8 hours of work to do.

  • gpsx  10 years ago

    I don't know why you are being down voted. I think you are right on. I grew up in West Virginia and escaped to Silicon Valley. I know people there who spend some time not working and then eventually lose the ability to hold a job at all. It is sad. Those people aren't lazy, they are normal. Many people on hacker news are the unusual (or exceptional) ones who would continue doing the same thing they are currently doing even if they weren't getting paid. I would.

  • majewsky  10 years ago

    > When you are out of work people have a tendency to adopt sporadic sleep habits and lifestyle.

    How did people survive before 9-5 jobs, then? Or, more drastically, before the beginning of agriculture? (Honest question.)

  • wolfgke  10 years ago

    I (PhD student) have a rather irregular/flexible schedule: Sometimes I'm at the institute at 9 am, sometimes at 11 am (but on the other hand I'm very often still at the institute at 8:00 pm). I believe I work a lot - but I'm the kind of person who strongly prefers a flexible instead of regular schedule.

    TLDR: A regular schedule is just drilled into your mind. It is much more important how much you work (if there are not very good reasons for the schedule).

    • generic_user  10 years ago

      Are you going to apply for a job trimming hedges or cleaning up tables at a restaurant whey you finish your degree?

      You are projecting your very unique and overachieving situation onto a world which is in quite the opposite position. The vast majority of the people that will end up in work programs have at best a high school degree. Many of them not even that and possibly some criminal or drug history. Or bad employment history.

      ~80% of the employment in the US is in the service industry. That is where most people are going to find employment.

      These programs are not designed for PhD students they are designed for people who have had a hard time getting the basics straight like holding a job. Staying on the right side of the law. And making the right choices which You and I take for granted.

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  • fzzzy  10 years ago

    You sure seem to place a lot of value in getting up at 7 am and being a butt in a seat five days a week. Why is that? You say it is important, but you don't provide an argument for why it is important.