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Comment by jkells

8 years ago

My first thought was relief, thank god I'm not using Cloudflare.

Where would you even start to address this? Everything you've been serving is potentially compromised, API keys, sessions, personal information, user passwords, the works.

You've got no idea what has been leaked. Should you reset all your user passwords, cycle all or your keys, notify all your customers that there data may have been stolen?

My second thought after relief was the realization that even as a consumer I'm affected by this, my password manager has > 100 entries what percentage of them are using CloudFlare? Should I change all my passwords?

What an epic mess. This is the problem with centralization, the system is broken.

We're compiling a list of domains using several scrapers and updating it here: https://github.com/pirate/sites-using-cloudflare

You can start by cross referencing your password manager with this list, and working your way out from there.

  • As an aside, I found this really interesting:

    ashleymadison.com

    ashleyrnadison.com

    I find it really interesting that they registered that particular misspelling and they both point to the same servers. I can see doing this for some obvious domains like gogle.com, but the distinction there is simply that r+n looks like m.

    Probably a really obvious answer here, but my guess is that they are trying to help people throw off the scent of someone browsing a history.

    • I think it's more likely that they bought the domain to prevent scammers from trying to bait users onto a fake site and enter login info, and since they have it why not redirect traffic.

> My second thought after relief was the realization that even as a consumer I'm affected by this, my password manager has > 100 entries what percentage of them are using CloudFlare? Should I change all my passwords?

Yes. Right now. Don't wait for the vendor to notify you.

> What an epic mess. This is the problem with centralization, the system is broken.

Yep.

> You've got no idea what has been leaked

If your site is served through Cloudflare, assume it's all out there because it might be. Standard Big Red Button(tm) procedure.

I don't run any particularly impressive sites but I'll be resetting passwords today. Also cycling things I use behind Cloudflare like DigitalOcean passwords/API keys.

It's supposed to be read-only Friday, Cloudflare :(

I won't take the initiative of changing passwords, and I will only be doing it for services that ask me to do it.

In my opinion, if my accounts get compromised because the provider uses Cloudflare and leaks my data all over, it's their fault, not mine... It's not my job to guess which services are using Cloudflare, which ones were affected... and further, if my account gets compromised, others presumably will.

(PS: Of course you may need to change passwords if you reuse passwords from one service to the other, but obviously you shouldn't be doing that in the first place.)

  • If someone runs a red light, broadsides you while you're in the intersection, and leaves you paralyzed... it is their fault both morally and legally... but it still sucks to be you since you bear the consequences regardless of fault.

    While this event is orders of magnitude less severe than my example, depending on the service that could be compromised there can be sufficient repercussions that you could not be made whole or avoid on-going inconvenience through the legal system or other acts of the genuinely responsible party.

    I absolutely get and sympathize with where you're coming from... but you may want to check a few of your more important accounts none-the-less :-)