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Comment by toomuchtodo

9 years ago

I'm saying Cloudflare has made a decision which criminal conduct they're willing to allow, which is dramatically different then "we turn off no one".

And why is it a surprise that media pirates or gangs weren't enough to change their minds, but Nazis are?

Your phrasing implies that if they're willing to kick out Nazis, they should be willing to kick out media pirates. That's bizarre!

  • > And why is it a surprise that media pirates or gangs weren't enough to change their minds, but Nazis are?

    Cloudflare: "Its okay if you break the law, but say offensive words that don't break the law and you are outta here."

    Hence, my surprise. Criminal acts = ok. Offensive legal speech = not okay.

    • You don't see why someone might be more opposed to actual literal swastika-carrying roman-saluting Hitler-worshipping Nazis who would be out exterminating inferior races right now if they had more followers, than to a web site that helps you download movies without paying for them?

      Criminality isn't the only thing people look at for this stuff.

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Yeah, I guess they draw the line at "people who actually want to kill other people." I don't know you but I think it's a pretty solid line.

  • > I guess they draw the line at "people who actually want to kill other people."

    Well, no, actually, they don't draw the line there. They provide DDoS protection for ISIS content and Al-Qaeda content and host that content through their caching.

    • Maybe we should claim for them censor all those bad actors too, then. Again, intending to kill people sounds like a solid line.

      To be honest, I feel they probably don't want to change their TOS regarding free speech because it creates a new headache for them (now they have to hire people to deal with the claims, make sure a lawyer checks each time they cancel a contract, etc.) In that sense, a "tactical" cancellation of the service like they did with Daily Stormer is probably the most reasonable way to go about it.

      You might dislike it, but it's their right.

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