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Comment by njarboe

9 years ago

Scott Alexander has a good article relating to this issue and Trump[1].

[1]http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wo...

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hsod  9 years ago

"I stick to my thesis from October 2015. There is no evidence that Donald Trump is more racist than any past Republican candidate (or any other 70 year old white guy, for that matter). All this stuff about how he’s “the candidate of the KKK” and “the vanguard of a new white supremacist movement” is made up."

I'm a big fan of SSC, but this thesis is not holding up very well

  • Bartweiss  9 years ago

    I'm not sure if it holds up poorly, or if it just cuts both ways.

    I mean, Nixon's FBI tried to blackmail civil rights leaders and drive them to suicide. Strom Thurmond was in the Senate until 2002. The Klan endorsed Reagan, regardless of what he said in reply.

    I agree that Trump has been frighteningly slow to condemn white supremacy, and that it holds more sway now than it did a decade ago. But on any time window longer than perhaps 15 years, I think it's fair to ask whether Trump is consequentially worse than his peers. Less diplomatic and more overt, to be sure, but is he actually driving more racial violence than Nixon did? I don't think so. The bar has been set horrifyingly low for a long time.

    There seems to be a large excluded middle. Arguments that Trump's actions are not racist in consequence look downright absurd, but the claim that they could only be caused by Klan-level racism and are entirely dissimilar to similar modern politicians seems more like rehabilitating other racists than condemning Trump.

    • hsod  9 years ago

      Fifteen years is a long time. IMO the piece holds up very poorly once you acknowledge that Trump has been consequentially more racist than GOP candidates from the last fifteen years.

      (I'm referring to "racism in consequence", I think speculating about his subjective inner state is pointless)

zaroth  9 years ago

That was surpringly entertaining, and perhaps even more relevant today than when it was written 9 months ago.