Comment by Aqueous
9 years ago
I don't think Cloudflare is preventing DailyStormer from engaging in peaceful expression. They are just not going to help them do it.
And based on events in Charlottesville, white supremacy is inherently a violent movement & don't need any excuses to engage in violence. If they say they engage in violence because media & internet companies shut them out, I'm not sure I buy that excuse.
> based on events in Charlottesville, white supremacy is inherently a violent movement
They've been marching for years without violence.
Antifa, on the other hand...when have they ever protested without violence?
"They've been marching for years without violence."
And then, when they felt they had a government sympathetic to their aims, they stopped being non-violent, and stopped covering their faces to hide their identities. And someone died being run over with a car, many people were brutally beaten (this has been captured on videotape), and two cops died responding to the chaos they caused.
I don't know about the history of "Antifa" violence but I do know what I can see with my own eyes, which is that Nazis are violent. Their expressed philosophy of government is of white nationalism, of removing all non-whites from the nation (whether through deportation or genocide). It is a proposal of mass violence. It is a movement of violence.
Yes, I'm sure that the radical right marchers shot down the police helicopter with their readily available Strela-3 rocket launchers that they keep on hand, just in case the opportunity to do so arises.
You're trying very hard to make a connection there.
Antifa has been instigating full on riots since the election. We're talking beating people unconscious (captured on video), torching buildings (captured on video), looting businesses (captured on video), destroying property (captured on video), and blocking traffic (captured on video), all without significant media coverage (despite the video footage). This can mostly be attributed to the general populace not being familiar with Antifa or its downright violent tactics/rioting.
It's a miracle Antifa hasn't managed to kill anybody yet. It is the only reason they haven't received significant media coverage; had the nut in the car not driven through a crowd, this whole mess would have flown under the radar, just like every political riot before this.
I'd also like to add that Trump is "sympathetic" to neo-Nazis in the same way Bernie Sanders is; isolationism is popular among white nationalists and supremacists. Adolf Hitler supported gun control, strict conservation efforts, and discouraged smoking; is everybody who supports these ideas a Nazi?
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> I don't know about the history of "Antifa" violence
I think a lot of people aren't aware; the media hasn't been reporting it much. Someone who wants the full picture of what happened in Charlottesville should learn more about their history of violence, everywhere from Berkeley to Hamburg.
They've been violent against people ranging from neo-Nazis to college speakers to Trump supporters to police officers to the G20.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-ris...
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