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Comment by intended

9 years ago

So you are where I was a decade ago.

I've already applied those ideas, "more speech". We've seen it repeated on so many forums now, so many subreddits a year, that the follow up pattern is already known.

It sadly doesnt work.

You can hold your view all you like mate, but in the end - its just a theory.

And do you honestly think, you are special and the only forum moderator, or forum attacker to NOT know those theories?

Really?

This isn't undiscovered country. Its just undiscovered for you.

Read what I have written.

As for your specific charge against dealing with Creationism.

1) why the hell are you fixated on creationism? are you some sort of free speech bouncer? Unless I wear the colors and say "I shall protect Creationism, even though I don't agree with it", you won't listen to me?

2) Creationism is REGULARLY debunked. In mass media, on forums, everywhere.

It makes no whit of difference to its target audience. Studies show that showing counteracting information often results in those views becoming EVEN MORE entrenched.

People debunking creationism can easily walk into a discussion - expecting that it will be a discussion.

Instead its a Specatcle, in the old Roman sense of the word - The opposite side hits them with a technicality "You can't explain all of evolution. See! theres even a debate among scientists on evolution!"

Which the antagonists then spin into "Teach the controversy!".

How can you have speech, when the other side never intended to speak in the first place?

3) WHy stop at creationism? What about jihadist recuritment material? What about JIhadist material explaining the pain they suffer, and the good reasons (according to them) they have for killing infidels?

4) What about libel? What about Laws against subliminal advertizing for that matter?

And here are some real life scenarios for you to answer -

What are you going to do when you get DDOSed? What do you do when the forum gets over run or brigaded?

What do you do when the people making speech are targeted and harassed, and thus removed from the discussion?

What do you do when people use the forum rules like lawyers, and tie forum mods into knots in order to make space for hate speech?

What do you do when experts enter a discussion, but the other side uses it as an opportunity to go "YOU CANT EXPLAIN EXTREMELY COMPLEX SUBJECT IN 2 SENTENCES! SEE THEY ARE FRAUDS!"