In this case they may never have had the source, the copyright is for Design Science, Inc which makes MathType a popular equation editor for Word. Depending on how this was licensed this may have even technically been illegal (due to copyright issues); although I suspect MS has a license that allows this.
I've never heard him claim that MS actually lost the source code to Word, only that they couldn't find the cause of a decades-old bug (related to selection and text-justification as I recall), even though it had thousands of bug reports, and that they spent years looking for it before giving up.
The point was that the code is too big and complicated, even for some of the best engineers in the world.
Microsoft has lost tons of code over the years. Even with the source, refactoring office which has people using file formats that are binary dumps of memory, is not trivial.
This was actually the Onus for the switch to the XML formats IIRC. Basically after the DOJ settlement they had the uneasy realization that the requirement to document the .doc format was going to be a nightmare because nobody had a complete spec of it. To make it worse the code wasn't very portable and customers were asking for x64 support pretty hard at the time.
Maybe they just don't know how to run the same version of the compiler any more, Visual C++ 4.2 or whatever they had... I remember it stopped working with some newer version of Windows.
There'd be nothing extraordinary about that, either. I've never worked for a company that could build something today that they released twenty years ago.
This do make a lot of sense. I don't think there is exe calls directly linked from other apps. If that were the case they would just update the address in the calling app. Much easier. Anyway, very nice piece of work. :)
In this case they may never have had the source, the copyright is for Design Science, Inc which makes MathType a popular equation editor for Word. Depending on how this was licensed this may have even technically been illegal (due to copyright issues); although I suspect MS has a license that allows this.
I've never heard him claim that MS actually lost the source code to Word, only that they couldn't find the cause of a decades-old bug (related to selection and text-justification as I recall), even though it had thousands of bug reports, and that they spent years looking for it before giving up.
The point was that the code is too big and complicated, even for some of the best engineers in the world.
Microsoft has lost tons of code over the years. Even with the source, refactoring office which has people using file formats that are binary dumps of memory, is not trivial.
This was actually the Onus for the switch to the XML formats IIRC. Basically after the DOJ settlement they had the uneasy realization that the requirement to document the .doc format was going to be a nightmare because nobody had a complete spec of it. To make it worse the code wasn't very portable and customers were asking for x64 support pretty hard at the time.
Re: 64 bit is that about Excel? I found the idea of a Word document needing >4GB RAM somewhat absurd
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Maybe they just don't know how to run the same version of the compiler any more, Visual C++ 4.2 or whatever they had... I remember it stopped working with some newer version of Windows.
There'd be nothing extraordinary about that, either. I've never worked for a company that could build something today that they released twenty years ago.
25 years old and I got it to compile and run when I re-found it last year!
https://github.com/linker3000/Historic-code-PC-Pascal-and-AS...
This do make a lot of sense. I don't think there is exe calls directly linked from other apps. If that were the case they would just update the address in the calling app. Much easier. Anyway, very nice piece of work. :)