Comment by rapind
7 years ago
I have no such duty. I'll teach my kids when they get a bit older, but trying to teach adult friends is an unrewarding exercise in futily (mansplaining even).
7 years ago
I have no such duty. I'll teach my kids when they get a bit older, but trying to teach adult friends is an unrewarding exercise in futily (mansplaining even).
Please don't post flamebait to Hacker News! I'm sure you didn't mean to, but you triggered just the sort of umpteenth regurgitation we're hoping to avoid here.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725399 and marked it off-topic.
>mansplaining even
I am fascinated to know how you are going to wedge gender politics sideways into this completely gender neutral conversation.
I agree that talking data storage strategies to people that aren't interested is unrewarding, but please mansplain to me how explaining technical concepts is mansplaining? Ideally, also define mansplaining in the process.
I believe the label mansplanting is used by non males to describe men teaching something in detail (often the complex idea is over the head of the person making the label comment). For some they would not like to be educated by males and men explaining technical details that no one asked for qualifies. Many males have stopped educating for fear of that label as most thought they were doing a favo(u)r by sharing. Society as a whole is affected.
It’s most often used when an idea is far _under_ the explainee’s head to the point that any explanation is absurdly unnecessary. That is, mansplaining usually refers to explaining while incorrectly assuming the incompetence of women.
You seem not to know what mansplaining is supposed to mean, whether you believe it exists or not.
It just means explaining something to someone who already understands it.
It's simple:
- most folks in tech are men
- most men date women
- in 2018 any attempt a man makes to explain something to a woman is a candidate for being accused of "mansplaining".
I'll say one other thing:
I honestly have no clue if mansplaining has a more technical definition but in general I see most people interpreting it as a man explaining anything to a woman.
It originated with Rebecca Solnit, who had an experience where a man and she were talking and a book came up that he had read. As he's telling her about the book, she points out that she's the author of the book, and he proceeds to continue explaining the book to her.
I certainly see this happening sometimes. Earlier this month I remember sitting in on a meeting where a boy fresh out of college was trying to explain SQL injection to a (female) senior security engineer.
That said, I think that happens to everybody, albeit disproportionately to women. And now mansplaining has other really silly uses as an epithet, like "a male with expertise is telling me something I don't want to hear" or "a male disagrees with something I believe very strongly."
I’ve most often heard it used in the context a man explaining something that didn’t need explaining in the first place. “If you don’t screw this screw in reallll right, it’ll come loose. And you know what happens if it comes loose right? Well first...” etc etc. It’s an assumed and implied ignorance of the issue at hand
My understanding is that the whole point of the term is to denote explanation that is redundant and caused by a man assuming a woman's incompetence. Like some story about a man explaining a book to the female author of the book.