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Comment by jimktrains2

7 years ago

You're making the mistake that this very article is highlighting: it's not just "people" who click links. An overzealous mail client or browser preloading links would force unsubscribe you without your knowledge or ability to undo.

A single step, a button push, to confirm an unsubscription is fine.

> A single step, a button push, to confirm an unsubscription is fine.

No, it really isn't.

Lots of mailing lists operate exactly as the person you replied to mentioned where after unsubscribing you are given a chance to undo that action. That's a far more respectful way to operate.

  • The user isn't going to see the "Oops! I need to undo" button when their email client helps themself behind the scenes.

    • Yet somehow lots of places use the click-one-link-to-unsubscribe method and it seems to work. What are they doing differently?

      The follow up confirmation screen feels slimy to me like some kind of cable company retention tactic. That's why I called it a dark pattern.

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  • None of your responses acknowledge or challenge the very real problem that automated systems and expected behavior of GET reqeusts impact your desired behavior of click-to-unsubscribe.

    In the spectrum of "buttholedesign", using proper web standards to make sure an action is being taken deliberately is far lower than "intentionally low-contrast skip buttons" and "call to cancel subscription".

    • Are we all going to just ignore the fact that lots of mailing list operators seem to be able to present a link to unsubscribe without triggering the bot problem?

  • I think having a URL that unsubscribes people just via a GET request is far more likely to cause problems, 'respectful', 'legal', or otherwise.