Comment by NicoJuicy
8 years ago
I think a couple of people will change to gitlab or alternatives because of how Microsoft was in the 90's.
But that Microsoft has changed, I see the most what people are complaining about is telemetry that is send, for following up on their biggest product. But all companies do this ( eg. https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/28/its-not-just-you-clicking-... ), also open source applications eg. Ubuntu,.. do this.
Microsoft has changed and I think they want to show it too, because I think they have more to lose if they fail with GitHub then when they succeed (with more integration for visualstudio.com probably)
> I think a couple of people will change to gitlab or alternatives because of how Microsoft was in the 90's.
And because of how Microsoft was in the 2000s, and the 2010s. Ballmer was after the 90s. Did they ever stop suing Android manufacturers for using FAT, or open up exFAT after managing to get it as part of the SDXC standard?
> also open source applications eg. Ubuntu,.. do this
...Yeah, Ubuntu did that. Not Debian. Not Fedora. Not Arch. Not Gentoo. Even RHEL barely phones home enough to check its license and get updates. And in Ubuntu, the single Linux distro to have done this, you could toggle it off in 5 minutes and it would actually respect your choice, rather than "accidentally" resetting to the most invasive set of options every other update after you spend hours hunting the latest set of registry hacks that make it better.
> Microsoft has changed and I think they want to show it too
I agree that they want to show that they've changed. I even agree that the current ecosystem is forcing them to change some. I also expect them to pull something the moment they think they can get away with it.
> Microsoft has changed
Changed? What makes you say that?
From the tiny interaction I have with MS I don’t think this is the case.
E.g. In my wife’s PC I have Firefox as the default browser, however:
1. If she clicks on one of the login manager wallpaper photos, the page opens in MS Edge.
2. Every time there is an update, MS Edge reappears as an icon on the desktop.
No, MS hasn’t changed. Their PR may have, but at core they are as evil as ever.
Being evil is a natural state for any large corporation. Trying to be not evil is always either fake or temporary. Microsoft cannot change, until it is split into hundreds of companies. Neither can Google, Facebook, Amazon or Apple.