Comment by jamestimmins
7 years ago
Anyone know where folks like Peter Norvig and Urs Hölzle fit on the L1-L11 scale? I assumed that all of the early employees/now legends were at the top level, so I was surprised to see the article state otherwise.
7 years ago
Anyone know where folks like Peter Norvig and Urs Hölzle fit on the L1-L11 scale? I assumed that all of the early employees/now legends were at the top level, so I was surprised to see the article state otherwise.
Peter is a director, and Urs is a senior VP. As such, they are now both on the management ladder. I think the article was discussing only people who were on the eng ladder.
Urs doesn't need a level on the individual contributor scale; he's a Senior Vice President.
Urs however does have one, he's listed as a Google fellow (L10) if you go looking.
As a general comment, to compare, a director is L8 equivalent, and VP L9, (but on the management ladder) although at VP+ it gets tricky because there are subdivisions.
Also worth noting that the management ladder goes up more. But the total number of people who are >L11 is probably <11, so it's not like there's any data on how exactly that's broken up.
Director is L8, Sr Director is L9, VP is L10, SVP is L11.
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I can't remember what Senior VP equates to on the tech ladder, but in terms of his overall impact on the company, Urs is definitely an 11.