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Comment by lelf

7 years ago

> The instruction is signalling success

Let’s wait for clarifications how that person has done the tests.

However: the bug is about systemd failing to get entropy, not getting nonsense entropy.

How xe was doing this was in fact explained in the comment hyperlinked right at the start of this page, and H. Peter Anvin was thinking about this over 4 years ago. But for the doubters Vladislav has already reiterated the point.

* https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/11810#issuecomment...

There is no "however". This bug is about code that is, according to the AMD doco, using the instruction correctly; but that is, because the AMD processor has this possible state after a suspend+resume, getting all-ones as its random data, thereby causing ID collisions in a fairly wide range of possible things from freshly re-generated machine IDs to journal file header block IDs, and including unit invocation IDs.

* https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/717e8eda77b93ac396dc...

* https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/717e8eda77b93ac396dc...

* https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/717e8eda77b93ac396dc...

This indicates that a "should be fine" in another comment is not in fact true. (-:

* https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/717e8eda77b93ac396dc...

  • The Bugzilla report seemed to indicate that AMD was returning an error code, because OpenSSL was failing to generate a key, not generating a bad key?

    Why would OpenSSL fail visibly if the API was returning success but with non-random data?

    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1150286

    • If you look closely at one of the error messages, it says "too many iterations", in what looks like a random generator. I wonder if at some point it has to iterate to get a number different from another one, and it just gets an endless stream of identical values?

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