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Comment by jbaiter

6 years ago

> - lack of manpower in the dev department, mostly caused by abysmal pay compared to the free market

Abso-fucking-lutely. IMO this is the main factor why most government IT in Germany is in such a disastrous state. Not just abysmal pay, but also coupled with:

a) Limited-term contracts (usually 2 years)

b) Ludicrous academic requirements: You only get pay grade E13 (which is ~40k€/year) with a Diplom or a Master's Degree, so there's no way to hire motivated talent that the rest of the market is more likely to ignore

c) In the case of Limux, Munich has one of the highest costs of living in all of Germany. You earn the same amount of money for a position, no matter if you live in Munich or somewhere in the middle of nowhere with half the cost of living.

d) Since this year there's now also a requirement that a candidate must not have worked under a limited-term contract for the government before. You can imagine how that works out, when most government jobs of the last decade were mostly limited-term.

> Ludicrous academic requirements: You only get pay grade E13 (which is ~40k€/year) with a Diplom or a Master's Degree, so there's no way to hire motivated talent that the rest of the market is more likely to ignore

Surely 40k EUR seems very little from an American perspective, but in Germany you cannot really expect much more than maybe 50-60K straight out of uni (as a normal, average student). 40k is surely less (I think E13 is more than 40k though), but the difference isn't that huge.

I was thinking about the same in France.

I recently had a look at the jobs in the administration and the salary was ridiculous compared to a similar one in the private sector.

This is particularly visible in the middle management are where a lit of actual decisions are made. No surprise that bringing in talent is not easy.

Same in science. I would love to come back to research but I cannot afford a smash (not cut) of my salary.

I do not think that the gouvernent is actually interested in having good pepole.