Comment by kevin_thibedeau
6 years ago
Millennial audiophools need their 192kHz 32-bit playback. Grandpa's sound system just won't cut it for reproducing those refined ultrasonics.
6 years ago
Millennial audiophools need their 192kHz 32-bit playback. Grandpa's sound system just won't cut it for reproducing those refined ultrasonics.
I don't think it's the reason.
A pair of good speakers is the most useful equipment in audio. If I'm a millennial audiophool and want 192 kHz / 32-bit PCM, I'll simply put a new DAC in front of the original Hi-Fi amplifier. I won't throw the perfectly usable system away.
I think this was a sarcastic comment. Obviously "reproducing the ultrasonics" don't actually matter for music reproduction....
Of course it's a sarcastic comment, and I know it when I was comment. It seems that it was you, who are unfamiliar with its background and implication.
"Reproducing the ultrasonics" here is a sarcastic reference to any sampling rate higher than 24 kHz (it actually backs back well before digital music). Audiophiles often prefer it because it's claimed that it has a wider frequency response, a lower quantization noise by oversampling, increased transparency after recording and remixing, while critics believe it's a point of diminishing return, and increases the odds of unwanted distortion that actually decreases the fidelity.
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In all honesty, I'd like a system that could play and record ultrasound.
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Grandpa's sound system was analog, not digital (as are all sound systems at some point before the speakers because sound is analog)
In fact I actually have a 192khz, 32 bit dac connecting my PC to a Technics stereo amp from the 80s.
Pithy snark only really works when you actually understand what you're talking about.
Spot-on.
I have an Apple USB-C to Headphone jack (named the AppleDAC by some of the people I know online) at the core of my setup- it goes from an HTPC (with a type-A to C adapter) to an older Akai amp. Works great for what I need it to, and for $8.99 + adapter, the thingies are lovely- if you have a TRRS headset, the AppleDAC will enumerate as a headset and it just works, too.
Melding new and old tech is where it's at, IMO.
You really do need a high quality DAC for a modern system. Older systems won't have a DAC at all, much less a good one.
That is a big deal unless it's a system 100% dedicated to vinyl.
Good thing those can be added after the fact.
That rather defeats the purpose of buying old kit on the cheap though, since you can get a good modern integrated amp for not much more than a standalone DAC.
The same millenials who are buying Bluetooth speakers at unprecedented rates?
It's almost like the word "millennial" is completely void of meaning...
Who ever would have thought labeling three decades worth of people across the whole globe with a single label AND THEN trying to draw generalisations from it was a fools errand?
The word "millennial used in a comment is a pretty easy signal that there's probably dumbassery ahead.
As if the average Millenial can afford expensive audio equipment.
The oldest millennials are now 38 years old.
Maybe instead of down voting my comment people should look up income data. It's not like I'm making shit up:
"The average Millennial annual salary is $35,592. Pew Research found that more millennial households are in poverty than any other generation and that millennials accounted for most of the nation’s renters."
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-average-millennial-in...
Even 256kHz 48-bit can't even get close to what I need when it comes to pitch-shifting an audio sample up even one single octave. It produces audible 'warbling' like a poorly-encoded MP3, or a badly-fatigued guitar string.
We aren't close to peak audio, yet.
Assuming you're talking about pitch shifting without changing speed, that warbling doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the source sample. It's just how the pitch shifting algorithm works.
Nah, this happens even in my hardware guitar pitch-shifting pedal. That one is pure analog. Guitar doesn't warble, but throw FLAC through it and you will get the warbling.
Exactly an octave is easy... just discard every other sample and smash the remaining ones together.
Except it's not... You need to filter down to below the new Nyquist frequency first or you will add tons of aliasing.
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Why, specially, are audiophiles worthy of scorn on HN?
Show some damn respect for others interest.
I think the kind of audiophiles who buy gold-plated HDMI cables because they sound better give the others a bad name.
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