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Comment by dessant

6 years ago

Apple is not engaged in illegal data harvesting to gain a competitive advantage over other services in the same space. Google's collection of personal data with the x-client-data header without user consent is illegal under GDPR.

This relies on the (unfounded) assumption that this pseudonymous ID is being used for tracking purposes and that Google is actively lying about it.

  • GDPR treats an IP address as personal data. The data is not transmitted through an anonymizing network, so Google has access to the user's IP address when they receive the data.

    Anything that is associated with personal data also becomes personal information, therefore Google is transmitting personal data without user consent, which is illegal.

    Asking for consent is not required under GDPR when the data collection is needed for a service to function. This is not the case here, Google services function without receiving that header, the data is used by Google to gain a technical advantage over other web services.

    • > GDPR treats an IP address as personal data.

      No it doesn't. GDPR only treats IP address as personal data if it is associated with actual identifying information (like name or address). Collecting IP address alone, and not associating it with anything else, is completely fine (otherwise nginx and apache's default configs would violate GDPR), and through them basically every website would violate GDPR.

      Edit: and furthermore, even if it did (I see conflicting reports), if you collect IP Address and another pseudonymous ID and don't join them, the ID isn't personal data.

      IOW, the theoretical capability to make changes to a system to use info in a non-GDPR compliant way doesn't make the information or system noncompliant. You actually have to do the noncompliant things.

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