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Comment by 0d9eooo

5 years ago

These things always have a grain of truth to them, in that they describe some places some of the time, but I also think there's so many things going on in any given place it's hard to generalize.

A well-run organization will hire the right people, and then foster their development in such a way that they are productive, happy, and grow, and will compensate them sufficiently. If any of those things break down, you can run into any number of problems, and they won't necessarily take the form that seems obvious at first.

I've seen organizations take very competent people and ruin their morale and shunt them into projects that were really detrimental to them getting out, in ways that aren't obvious at the time. Or weird organizational dynamics cause changes over time that make someone look bad in ways that aren't their own fault.

There's just weird things that happen that don't simplify to simple models of "talent that is completely independent of environment and perfectly visible."

Have you ever personally had a long term career in a corporation that somehow managed the escape velocity to actually become something other than typical? i.e. typically toxic and bound to these laws?

  • I work for myself, but I have quite a few friends who have worked for large companies for 10-20 years.

    Some companies just know how to treat their employees well, and they benefit from that.

  • Yes but only due to near 100% turnover of management and toxic coworkers in a short amount of time. It was weird the day I realized I was essentially working at a different job.

  • What? You think all employees will inevitably hate working at every company if they stay awhile?

    • There are no great companies left and everyone of any worth evaporates and ends up "working for themselves" and employee mentality has made most corporations into dystopian surveillance states where management rules by force of mediocrity so the ones that stay are happy to wallow in their entitlements as long as they're free to dress in rags and can afford their mortgage payments yea

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    • No, but they will eventually become overburdened with ever more rules, regulations, and lose the cohesive team which existed at the beginning.