Is the POTUS clearly inciting violence or is it another instance of people having a wild interpretation of what he said? I'm so tired of this dynamic that I don't even bother anymore.
> These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
Worth noting that this is a quote from former Miami Police Chief Walter Headley. In '67, he said the phrase "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" during racially charged protests.
> Is the POTUS clearly inciting violence or is it another instance of people having a wild interpretation of what he said?
The POTUS unambiguously quoted racist Miami police chief Walter Headley who called for violence against African Americans during the civil rights movement of the 1960s. This couldn’t be a more clear example of inciting violence.
You do know that he was talking about MS13 gang members who had murdered people. People need to stop reading media spins and watch actual full un-edited footage.
really? wild interpretation? it's a weird construction that's widely known to have been used by the police chief during similar circumstances? how big does the donkey have to be before you pin the tail on it? i wager there could be a video of trump composing the tweet with a biography of the police chief in view and open to the page with those words and you'd still claim to doubt the intent.
it's exhausting having to take this kind of bad faith skepticism seriously.
If you truly believe in what they are doing, then buy their stock and prop up the price, because it is plunging right now. Words alone are about as useful as clapping for healthcare workers.
Even nonviolent protest was never intended to be peaceful. Not in they way many people would use the word “peace”, anyway.
“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’”
That’s MLK in his letter from a Birmingham jail. Who was completely devoted to nonviolence. Even he made abundantly clear that nonviolence does not equal a lack of pressure or tension.
Now if only they would crack down on the huge wave of Chinese bullshit they allow.
They added fact-checks to two of Lijian Zhao’s tweets yesterday. Not sure if that counts as a crackdown, but it’s a high level account.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52833063
Whether you agree with these actions or not - it doesn't bode well for Twitter.
Politicians and other organizations will work to offer up an alternative platform where they won't be censored.
These are literally the most powerful people in the world.
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Did any of this bs you refer to come from the president of China directly?
There's the xenophobia we all know and love. Right in time to steer the conversation from looking inwards.
Is the POTUS clearly inciting violence or is it another instance of people having a wild interpretation of what he said? I'm so tired of this dynamic that I don't even bother anymore.
Judge for yourself, the exact tweet is:
> These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
Worth noting that this is a quote from former Miami Police Chief Walter Headley. In '67, he said the phrase "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" during racially charged protests.
> Is the POTUS clearly inciting violence or is it another instance of people having a wild interpretation of what he said?
The POTUS unambiguously quoted racist Miami police chief Walter Headley who called for violence against African Americans during the civil rights movement of the 1960s. This couldn’t be a more clear example of inciting violence.
The guy who openly called for police to rough people up in the past does not get the benefit of the doubt here.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/28/donald-trump...
You do know that he was talking about MS13 gang members who had murdered people. People need to stop reading media spins and watch actual full un-edited footage.
EDIT: Oh look, downvote brigade has arrived.
You are making an assumption that the interpretation is wild.
really? wild interpretation? it's a weird construction that's widely known to have been used by the police chief during similar circumstances? how big does the donkey have to be before you pin the tail on it? i wager there could be a video of trump composing the tweet with a biography of the police chief in view and open to the page with those words and you'd still claim to doubt the intent.
it's exhausting having to take this kind of bad faith skepticism seriously.
Why isn't this tweet censored?
https://twitter.com/oliviagatwood/status/1266231558047846400
If you truly believe in what they are doing, then buy their stock and prop up the price, because it is plunging right now. Words alone are about as useful as clapping for healthcare workers.
Wouldn't call a 1 percent drop "plunging".
Regardless, stock comes back up. These are reputation points that will stay for a while.
Plunging is a strong word, but this is still an excellent point. Just bought the stock for support.
Now if only they'd give Kaepernick's tweet [0] equal treatment, to be even-handed.
[0] https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1266046129906552832?s...
Even nonviolent protest was never intended to be peaceful. Not in they way many people would use the word “peace”, anyway.
“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’”
That’s MLK in his letter from a Birmingham jail. Who was completely devoted to nonviolence. Even he made abundantly clear that nonviolence does not equal a lack of pressure or tension.
I don’t see Kap mentioning shooting anyone in that tweet? Either you linked the wrong one or you’re trying to paint a false equivalence.
Sure reads to me like it’s advocating for violent revolt, albeit far more eloquently. I think this is the fundamental problem: it’s all subjective.
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There’s such a thing as a peaceful revolution. Portraying this as similar to the President calling for shooting people is disingenuous.