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Comment by sushshshsh

6 years ago

Sorry to be blunt but when you give unions power, this is the bullshit that comes from it

Why do you trust corporation-backed power (small amount of people in charge) versus union-backed power (power distributed across many people)?

I find it fascinating, particularly in a country like America where democracy is a core part of our being.

Unions allow people to vote on their own preferences, then use their collective voice to negotiate. If you don’t like some bullshit union practice, then that is the fault of the people in it not the unions themselves.

  • Ask any nurse, plumber, or teacher in the United States if they really feel they have the power to replace union reps that are perpetuating such practices.

    Power perpetuates power

    • True! So, better governing systems for a union, no?

      You can’t get rid of power, just redistribute it. As flawed as democracy is, that’s what it attempts to do.

      Or do we want to get rid of governments? ;)

      In that case I’ll happily make the same snarky comment about whatever collection of humans accrue and then abuse power in our new government-free society.

      People are naturally social. There will always be power, wielded in one way or another. But we have and will figure out schemes to wield it in a to benefit the many more than the few.

No. That's what's happening in some American unions (not all!), but it's not true in Denmark (for any union!), by the sound of it from the above post, in Sweden.

Unions in Sweden (and Scandinavia, Germany) are powerful to defend workers interests, it doesn't mean that unions are requiring to have union-only jobs or trying to micromanage the workplace. The bullshit you are seeing is from your own bubble and worldview, don't make broad platitudes out of it, that is bullshit.