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Comment by skinkestek

5 years ago

> I feel like criticism of the American nuclear family has been pretty much fair game for decades; it's not like BLM invented that concern.

Question: can you see how mixing this into BLM is a problem? I can take an unpaid day off to protest police brutality but this very quickly escalated into something completely different.

FTR, my stance on this:

- I'm not happy to support anything that wants to remove police. More training: yes. Tougher penalties for people abusing police power: yes. But removing one of most effective stabilizers in the society: no. For all its warts, the police is important.

- While I grew up in the same house as my grandparents until I was 6 or so and while my mothers parents and other relatives walked freely in and out of the house as long as they could walk I do not want to support a movement that had any opinion on how I or anyone organize our family life

- I'm kind of a socialist at heart but sadly could never vote that way as a every socialist party around here pulls in ugly dependencies, so for now and for the foreseeable future, the second best option: support anyone who wants to leave people alone.

- As this movement had started to try to tear down Churchill - not the bravest ot noblest man - but arguably one of those whose actions mattered most to reduce police brutality (Gestapo) and racism in Europe and no one is stopping them I've concluded that this movement is beyond repair. (Anyone should feel free to prove me wrong here by turning that movement around.)

Edit:

- some clarification

- also, based on the feedback so far: am I misunderstanding something (I had a misunderstanding a few days ago where someone meant nazi but used an euphemisms that I didn't catch in that context.)

> I do not want to support a movement that had any opinion on how I or anyone organize our family life

You belong to a culture and a nation which already enforces strong opinions on how its members organize our family lives. Therefore, it's a fair question to ask how effective those opinions are, and whether different opinions might be more effective.

  • > You belong to a culture and a nation which already enforces strong opinions on how its members organize our family lives.

    Can you explain?

    (My understanding is that my nation cares less about how people organize their lives than it has done for at least 900 years.

    People live together 3 generations, other live as single, others as unmarried couples, married couples and everything in between.)