Comment by M4v3R
5 years ago
What I find fascinating is that two people already were convinced that they’d never release the AI and yet during the experiment they ultimately did. And they had money incentive to do otherwise (Eliezer would pay them if they decided not to let him out). You cannot really say that there’s nothing that could convince you since the conversation was off the record so we’ll never know for sure how would we react if we had that conversation instead.
It’s also telling that back then when those experiments were initially conducted you could have a gentleman’s agreement like this (to not disclose the method of convincing) with a complete stranger on the Internet. Sadly nowadays many people would probably do a YouTube video about that immediately.
> What I find fascinating is that two people already were convinced that they’d never release the AI and yet during the experiment they ultimately did. And they had money incentive to do otherwise (Eliezer would pay them if they decided not to let him out). You cannot really say that there’s nothing that could convince you since the conversation was off the record so we’ll never know for sure how would we react if we had that conversation instead.
Yeah I do too. I am super curious but the dataset of two highly filtered individuals isn't enough. I lack the imagination to think of a scenario where I would let it out. I want to know why I would let it out.
> It’s also telling that back then when those experiments were initially conducted you could have a gentleman’s agreement like this (to not disclose the method of convincing) with a complete stranger on the Internet. Sadly nowadays many people would probably do a YouTube video about that immediately.
I wouldn't and I think many active HN members wouldn't too. Trust comes from small tightly knitted communities which would reflect the older internet. It's not that the people changed fundamentally. They are the same but the dynamics of how many communities there are for the same topics. People fear being ostracized but when there are enough options, they put personal responsibility below other goals.