Comment by lightgreen
5 years ago
> Free speech doesn't mean I have to respect you.
Nobody seriously cares about respect as much as about their freedom.
> I can say "Guys, this dude is a flat Earther. Let's make fun of the moron"
The sad fact is that you seem to only support freedom of express progressive ideas.
Consider someone saying "Guys, this dude is gay. Let's make fun of the moron". I guess you won't support freedom of speech for that person.
Read the context: it was about respect. I even quoted it for you. But we can proceed anyway if the conversation has shifted.
> Consider someone saying "Guys, this dude is gay. Let's make fun of the moron". I guess you won't support freedom speech for that person.
Oh dude, I support that like nothing else, but I will use my freedom of speech to absolutely shun that individual. I absolutely encourage you to admit to any homophobia, etc. That way I know to shun you and to ask my friends to shun you. It is my freedom of speech and expression that permits me to do that. Free individuals must have the liberty to freely associate. And from the liberty to freely associate comes the liberty to choose to not associate.
And if you want to speak up and ask for me to be shunned, I encourage you to do that. Because I believe in a freedom of speech and expression that is almost absolute.
You will never find me making laws that say that expressing homophobia or racist opinions or whatever must be outlawed. Say it loud, say it proud, you have the right.
Even if the constitution allows free speech, but practically if free speech is not possible, it is not freedom.
Note in the authoritarian totalitarian states there are no laws against free speech. And usually it is not government actors how punish you for expressing dissenting opinions, it is often mob and your employer. These states are not free.
So to some degree SV is not a free place, even if it there are no laws prohibiting free expression.
Interesting, so you want to restrict people from saying things because you think they're saying things you don't like.
And you use this stance to claim you're advocating for freedom without seeing the inherent contradiction.
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