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Comment by munificent

5 years ago

> Or you are biased to see it everywhere.

Why would I be?

> but the burden of proof on those who make statements about white supremacists

In a nation where it was legal to own black people for most of its existence and less than 40 years since the last lynching, you think the burden of proof is on me to show that white supremacy is a problem?

But, sure, here you go then:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:White_supremacy_in_th...

> Why would I be?

I don't know. Maybe you watched a movie about white supremacists when you were a child and it stick to your mind. People tend to have biases and see what they want to see. Some people see white supremacists everywhere. Otheres constantly see examples of inter-racial love and friendship.

> In a nation where it was legal to own black people for most of its existence and less than 40 years since the last lynching, you think the burden of proof is on me to show that white supremacy is a problem?

Maybe it is a problem, maybe it is not a problem.

The original statement was not about that. Quoting:

> But if you scale it by each person's power/wealth, you get a very different view. If your question is "what is the total power held by white supremacists?" you'll end up with a larger number.

This is the statement I'm contensting. Because it is unsubstantiated.

  • > Maybe you watched a movie about white supremacists when you were a child and it stick to your mind.

    Well, I:

    * Lived near a sundown town.

    * Watched one of my closest friends get recruited by an associate of David Duke and slowly get indoctrinated into white supremacy.

    * Had a white kid in high school proudly tell me about the time they "beat the shit out of that nigger" just because they didn't like the way he looked at them.

    * Watched half a schoolbus full of elementary school kids joke about "porch monkeys".

    * Grew up in a city named after one plantation in a neighborhood named after another one.

    But, sure, yeah, I must be imagining it all.

    > Because it is unsubstantiated.

    I provided a link to lots of articles about white supremacy in the US. It is you who have provided no counter-evidence.

    • > But, sure, yeah, I must be imagining it all.

      No, I'm not saying you are imagining. I suspect (not state) that you are biased, and describe the issue larger than what it is.

      > I provided a link to lots of articles about white supremacy in the US. It is you who have provided no counter-evidence.

      And I can give you a link to Google, when you can find anything.

      You just provided a link with the list of white supremacist organisations. Nobody denies these organisation exists.

      But there is no proof that "white supremacists" have significant power. They look like small marginal groups with no money and no real power. Like religious sects.

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