Comment by codeulike
4 years ago
I remember when everything was on network drives, and no-one understood the folders other people had created, so they created their own. So you end up with three 'IT Projects' folders, in three different places. And worse, multiple copies of the same document in different places, all slightly different.
Sharepoint should have been able to fix all that, but somehow it just made it the same, but slower. Even after 20 years, I never know where the f__k I am in sharepoint, or when someone sends me a link to a sharepoint doc, I can open the doc, but I don't know where the f__k the document _is_. I dont know quite why sharepoint is so confusing, I think its because it tries hard to pretend to be something other than the document store that it should so obviously be. Just when I get the hang of it, they redesign it all, and add some new front end like Delve.
If I join a project, something that rings alarm bells is if the Project Manager has created sixty empty folders in Sharepoint arranged into a three level hierarchy with different folders for every stage and stream of the project. Most of the time, most of the folders remain empty for the duration.
So yep I really like this Johnny.Decimal idea, simple and workable.
(I'm the eponymous 'Johnny'.)
This. One hundred times this.
Those here arguing that things can, in fact, be found, or saying that my claim that "nobody can find anything any more" is absurd, clearly haven't worked in the ~5 large enterprises that I've worked in over the last decade.
Internal organisation in enterprises is shockingly bad. Remember, these people aren't techs. They have no idea what `find / -iname file | grep whatever` means. They crack open SharePoint and rummage around. When they want to save a thing, they just put it wherever. It's chaos.
I'm just implementing this for a few new projects at my current place and my boss has messaged me a number of times expressing his joy at just knowing where stuff is.
> So yep I really like this Johnny.Decimal idea, simple and workable.
Seems to be no different than this:
>something that rings alarm bells is if the Project Manager has created sixty empty folders in Sharepoint arranged into a three level hierarchy
Except that it's a hundred empty folders in a two level hierarchy replicated by convention across different systems, including Sharepoint if your organization uses it.