Comment by cloogshicer
4 years ago
Is it really the source code that has value, or your continued expansion and development of said code? Genuine question.
The reason I'm asking, while I was writing the article, I was considering including the youtube-dl fiasco (when the RIAA took it down from GitHub) as an example. People were concerned not because the code was gone (lots of mirrors popped up quickly), but because they were worried that the contributors would stop further development.
I think that's another indicator that the code itself carries little value. However, the problem space you've loaded and mapped to code in your own head, does have lots of value. Of course the fact that you're sharing it with the world in the best format we know so far (code) for free is much appreciated :)
Youtube-dl is an app chasing a moving operating of trying to interact with other sites APIs... many of which don't really even want to let youtube-dl do that. Most apps aren't in such a difficult space and keep working basically forever.
> Most apps aren't in such a difficult space and keep working basically forever.
Sadly, this doesn't match my experience. Software that isn't actively maintained always dies, sooner or later.
Whether this is true depends on what you do.
The last update to TeX (widely used in math and computer science for typesetting) was 12 January 2014.
A lot of payment processing systems are still running on code written in the 1960s and 1970s. Frequently untouched since Y2K.
I have a friend who went to work in the mid 2000s for a company she had worked for in the early 1970s. Out of curiosity she looked up her old programs. They were still running, unchanged. She asked why and was told, "They never broke."
One of the reasons for the survival of FORTRAN is that there are trusted software packages that people rely on which were written decades ago and still run.
There is an active emulator community for people who want to run games that are decades old, unchanged.
No, your old Netscape browser won't work in the modern web. Nor are early mobile apps going to run. But you'd be amazed at how many places you can find old software still happily running today.
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Even if the project is 'dead' it still runs, particularly on Windows.
I'm running the final release of Winamp as I type this. I organize my hard disk with the 1.0 of Spacemonger, which was free before it went paid. I edit audio files with Sound Forge 11 (up to 14 or so now) and before that I had a pirated copy of 6.0 that worked pretty well. I have a 'programs' folder full of stuff that runs without installation, some of which hasn't been touched in 5 or 10 years, and everything still runs when I try it.
Code is eternal.
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AutoDock Vina[0] is one of the most popular molecular-docking softwares used (if we go by papers citing it). It was last updated on May 11, 2011.
I personally hold the opinion that if the project is not being maintained, giving away the source code allows someone else to pick it up.
[0] http://vina.scripps.edu/download.html
I think both can be true.
A snapshot of source code can be useful as a basis for some other project. However, you're also correct that, if the source code is abandonware and you/others have no interest in maintaining it, it almost certainly becomes less useful over time and at some point just breaks.
Your youtube-dl example doesn't make sense because youtube-dl wasn't wiped from everyone's computer nor from package managers nor from the internet. So of course losing youtube-dl wasn't the concern.
The thing at threat was the thing the team was using to maintain it, so that's what people were concerned about.
You don't care more about your garage than your house just because you're crying about your garage when a tornado wrecks it but not your house.
Thanks for writing the article, see my comment else where in this thread. It's really helped me. I just been througha rough ride of a handover.