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Comment by eloff

4 years ago

And what if they were consenting - I'm not saying that's the case here, I don't know obviously, I'm asking in general, just like my comment is a musing about the vagaries of when is consent not consent.

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Pfhreak  4 years ago

It's not vague. Consent is an enthusiastic and unambiguous yes. Was there an enthusiastic and unambiguous yes? You have consent. Was there not an enthusiastic and unambiguous yes? You do not have consent.

  • throwaway0a5e  4 years ago

    >enthusiastic and unambiguous

    <rolls eyes>

    By redefining consent you've just redefined rape to include some large percentage of people in stable relationships. If everyone's a rapist nobody is.

    • Pfhreak  4 years ago

      If you are having sex and your partner isn't unambiguously interested, you need to ask yourself some questions.

      Also, people in stable relationships can have non consensual sex. It was legal to rape your wife until like the 90s in parts of the states.

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  • eloff  4 years ago

    I think we can agree on that.

    I'm not arguing about what consent is, I'm arguing about whether you bear responsibility for what happens to you if you put yourself in a vulnerable position, give consent without being of sound mind, and then regret it later. I think 1) that's pretty dumb to put yourself in that situation, and 2) you do have partial responsibility for what happened.