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Comment by voces

4 years ago

Experience as a father of daughters, raised by a single mom. But set that aside, as your experience as a man cancels it out.

You seem to view women as weak victims. Your suggestion she underwent the rape as a rational decision, so she did not have to escalate a fight she would likely lose, is downright horrific to me. Maybe 100-200 years ago, a woman had her life lived to that degree, but these days they are equals.

Majority of rapists will desist if you put up a fight. You don't need to be physically stronger, to grab a pinky finger and twist it to break it. Put your thumb in his eye, and he won't be in the mood for anything. If he gets aggressive and physical after that, run to the police, and have him arrested for attempted rape and physical assault.

Not only can my loved ones and their friends trust me to call me any time, for any thing, they have actually done so. Locking yourself in the toilet is not some alpha-male fantasy. It is one of the safest places to be at a party. I'll come pick you up, and not ask any questions.

Yes, it was a long string of very bad decisions. To call anyone pointing that out "victim-shaming", is not helping. I do think that what a woman wears at night has direct influence on the risk she runs. Don't try to turn that into "she was asking for it", but also don't blame the rest of the world when you are responsible for your own safety.

> these days they are equals

This is laughable and just reinforces what I'm saying: you need to listen to more of the women in your life about their actual experiences, not what you imagine them to be. I am not invoking my experience as a man. I am invoking the experiences of the vast majority of women I know. Their experiences are not even close to equal to mine, when it comes to their ease of moving about the world, not to mention their physical safety.

Any person, placed in a situation where they are in danger, can react in a way that isn't necessarily a matter of deciding in the first place. I was pointing out that even where there is a decision to made, it doesn't obviously favor fighting. But your confidence that a victim can fight back ignores what we know about rapes and the fight/flight/freeze stress response. Not reacting is entirely natural and very common, particularly when the situation isn't one that you've trained a habitual response to.

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