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Comment by ekianjo

5 years ago

> Have you ever dreamed of a system that boots in less than few seconds from power-on to working GUI?

You mean every OS these days with a SSD?

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  • Windows drives me mad with this stuff any time I have to use it.

    I'm baffled by people still claiming "desktop Linux hasn't arrived" when they put up with this shit.

    • Except literally today I wanted to do a quick reboot of Ubuntu and I was stuck staring at "unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, please don't turn off the computer" for 30 minutes with no warning nor any indication of how long it would take. That managed to be far more infuriating than windows ever has with all of its update shenanigans.

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    • > I'm baffled by people still claiming "desktop Linux hasn't arrived" when they put up with this shit.

      I'm sorry, you say that as though Linux Desktop doesn't have a giant pile of its own shit to put up with. Windows definitely isn't perfect, but I'll still take its shit any day over Linux Desktop's.

Windows boots pretty fast. MacOS and iOS are dog slow and take well over a minute (dunno about M1).

  • iOS: booting iOS is pretty much moot since this is in fact for devices that remain on most of the time for weeks until the next upgrade.

    • Same with macOS for that matter. Still, it’s curious that Apple is quite behind other OSes concerning boot time. I almost never restart windows either, but when I need to (usually because waking up is still a hit or miss) it’s super fast.

At least if said OS is Solus or maybe Arch Linux, Clear Linux. These in particular can be crazy fast and literally boots in maybe three secs or so.

Assuming 'less than a few seconds' is actually accurate, that's not quite the case - I dual boot with a NVMe and SATA SSD, and even the NVMe (running Void Linux with runit) still takes about 30 seconds to power on. Absolutely 'fast enough' and not really something I think is worth the effort to lessen, but still not less than a few seconds.

  • That seems very extreme. My Arch install on an M.2 SSD boots to terminal in about 3 seconds, and X starts in about a second. The BIOS delay is roughly 5 seconds or so. Granted it's a fairly minimal install, but that shouldn't cause an order of magnitude difference.

    I don't think runit has an equivalent for `systemd-analyze blame`, but something is probably slowing things down by a lot.

  • I would not put up with anything more than 10-15 seconds on my stock (but not bloated) Arch with Systemd and a cheap SSD.

  • I wonder what's going on.

    My firewall is an AMD 5130 (pre Zen) with 4 GB RAM and a SATA SSD, running Debian stable with sysvinit. It reboots in less than 30 seconds, which means that most of the time TCP sessions passing through it stay up.

  • How much RAM do you have installed? That can significantly affect your boot time.