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Comment by jll29

5 years ago

Any new ideas for missing protocols, HN?

More than finger, I so miss the times of USENET and the user experience of its hierarchical system of groups with threaded, text-only pull messages (I accessed it from gnus (the emacs newsreader) via my HP 9000 715 running HP-UX 9.03).

The Gemini protocol is an interesting re-imagining of Gopher: extremely simple text-only content, with client-side styling. Identification via client-side certs.

I’m sure you could write a Reddit client that emulates this. For better or worse, it’s the most like Usenet today.

  • The most important difference a Usenet-like clients brings is per-message read/unread status, which is what enables long-running threads and discussions. Without most clients (most users) supporting such read/unread tracking, you won’t have long-running discussions, which changes the whole character of the medium.

    Per-message read/unread status in practice requires keyboard navigation (or as an inferior alternative, paging with read/unread tracking like in web forums), which doesn’t work for mobile.

    The lack of read/unread tracking is also why we don’t have long-running discussions on HN.

    The only remaining medium with per-message read/unread tracking we currently have is mailing lists.

  • That's not true. Everyone had a voice on Usenet. The same cannot be said for Reddit unfortunately.

Usenet isn't threaded. That's just something constructed client side.

  • That makes little sense to me. Each post contains a pointer to its parent post in the thread. That's how the client side can construct the thread.