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Comment by shkkmo

4 years ago

> bullshit jobs is a term for jobs that have not yet been automated

This is not what the term is intended to mean. "Uber Driver" (or taxi driver) is a job that performs a necessary function but one that may not necessarily need to be done by a human.

A bullshit job is one that does not really need to be done, one that provides no value to society at large and exists because of zero-sum games, ego, tradition, etc...

I don't agree with all the jobs Graeber described with this label, but it is a very useful concept.

By this definition being a soldier is a bullshit job, because the only reason it's needed is because other countries have soldiers as well (i.e. zero sum). But I don't think most people would agree that it can be done away with. Zero sum games are just an unavoidable part of life.

  • Zero sum games may not be completely avoidable, but that absolutely doesn't meam that the amount of economic activity wasted on zero sum games can't be reduced.

    For example, I think the amount of money spent on nuclear weapons programs globally could be reuced significantly with no harm to the world.