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Comment by lmm

4 years ago

OAuth helps but it still forces you to rely on a single central provider as your "root". So it's not a complete solution.

> still forces you to rely on a single central provider as your "root"

So what ? I am still struggling to understand what immediate and painful need users have with trusting Apple, Facebook, Google etc with their identity.

If people had some issue with this then users would simply not use OAuth and default to creating an account for each service they use.

  • > I am still struggling to understand what immediate and painful need users have with trusting Apple, Facebook, Google etc with their identity.

    It's not so immediate until you get banned, but they've all been gradually stepping up their politicised banwaves. And there's always the concern about what happens when one of them goes the way of Yahoo.

    > If people had some issue with this then users would simply not use OAuth and default to creating an account for each service they use.

    Which has huge practical headaches, to the point that OAuth being the least-bad option doesn't say a lot.

  • > If people had some issue with this then users would simply not use OAuth and default to creating an account for each service they use.

    Do you really believe this? Plenty of people use services they don't particularly like because it's better than the alternative or they have an immediate need. I know lots of people who didn't want to use zoom but needed to, have a Facebook account to keep up with family even though they'd rather not, etc.

    Plenty of people would love an option that works as easy as oauth but doesn't lock them to a FAANG provider. Just because they use it when there's not another option doesn't mean they wouldn't use another option if it existed.

  • >I am still struggling to understand what immediate and painful need users have with trusting Apple, Facebook, Google etc with their identity.

    Are you actually serious right now?