← Back to context

Comment by mgraczyk

3 years ago

Very interesting, I didn't expect the accuracy and detail in this data.

All of my pay from Intel, Google, Facebook is in here. Qualcomm apparently did not report.

Also, Google (my latest employer) pulled the data just before I started working, after giving me an offer. My credit card company pulls the data every month, sometimes 2-3 times per month. Several mortgage originators have also pulled the data even though I have not gotten a mortgage (I probably filled out a form on their website).

I guess I'm okay with credit card companies monitoring this, but I'm not sure I am okay with potential employers having access to this. Is it even legal in California for them to read this information? Maybe it was legal at the time but not any more?

> I'm okay with credit card companies monitoring this

I'm not. If they want to know, they can ask me for a paystub.

  • Credit card companies do ask for permission to pull financial information from brokers when you sign up.

If they pulled salary info after making an offer, then this is likely qualified as verification of data that prospective employee submitted. They can probably revoke that offer if one provided misleading info during application.

  • That's some shady behavior though. The whole point of the law is to prevent companies from penalizing employees based on prior salaries. Wouldn't be surprising if Google was finding excuses to retract offers based on seeing that they "overbid" on someone's comp. If anyone has had suspicious stuff like this happen, it sounds like it'd make a great lawsuit.

    Would be nice if some journalist(s) made a big stink out of Google finding a loophole in this employee protection law.

    • I'm currently interviewing for a new role, and I've already been told my expected salary is too low for me to be a senior engineer. Hardly my fault I didn't know to ask for a higher amount?!

      Will obviously be challenging this if I get an offer...

      1 reply →

    • The scenario I had in mind would pertain to California where they aren’t allowed to ask your salary history. So if one didn’t not disclose salary info, then offer was likely not based on that info (nor on work number info). In which case they can’t pull offer due to misleading salary info. However, all bets are likely off in states with no such protection…

Does the system not ask for SSN to pull this data? If yes, how did Google get your SSN?

Disc: Googler.

  • At the very least you need to provide proof of your SSN before you start employment in the US (as a US citizen at least). This is required for your social security benefits and some tax info. I believe in most states you actually have to physically show your social security card on the first day of employment now too.

  • Pretty sure Google needs your SSN to be employed at the company. Whole I-9 form, withholding taxes, giving you a W2 and all that jazz...

  • Google asks for SSN for background checks and whatnot.

    • I guess. I always thought b/g checks are done via third party but I don't recall being asked for SSN during that step. It's been a while so I guess I am not remembering right. Thanks.

      1 reply →

    • SSN and proof of citizenship are required for all US companies to employ someone. It's not just background checks.