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Comment by bitexploder

4 years ago

You could probably charge a good bit more. Our customers are at 14k week rate for good quality pen testing, app sec, device hacking, sec eng, red teams etc.

Edit: and I know friends at big firm with crypto services specialty and they charge a looot more. $400-$500/hr. They stay pretty busy.

I'm fairly good at crypto (not as good as Colin of course) but I think that's not of that much help in general security stuff. Pen testing = knowing all the bugs and code smells in the popular Javascript frameworks, 0 days in a zillion libraries like log4j, etc. I'm basically resigned that the modern web is bloaty buggy crap and so I haven't found it worthwhile to get too familiar with its workings. I have gotten some fairly pure crypto gigs here and there, but I think wider security, especially web security, is a much bigger and messier subject.

  • much bigger and messier subject

    Exactly. I won't touch gigs like that; the closest I'll get is to make a point about "keep your system at minimalist as possible" during general security review.

    Heck, I'm unlikely to even take code review gigs any more -- IIRC the last time I did one of those it was reviewing STUD before Bump released it.

  • The difference is the level of knowledge required. Deep vs wide. To pick a nit, too, customers use the term pen testing very broadly. So, it could just be internals and externals, could be app sec, etc. I haven’t found a ton of changes all that important in the last decade in web app testing.