Comment by EGreg
3 years ago
Intermittent fasting can help repair a lot of things in your body, make you live longer, etc.
Vegans live on average 10 year longer!
The hunger you feel the first day btw is not "real" hunger, it's just your stomach growling and you being used to eat. After you ignore hunger for 3 days, your body stops wanting food. That's if you want to do a cleanse. (I've never done one though)
Short fasting has been shown to have positive health effects when done right. Even short fasting can be dangerous and should absolutely not be done without prior consultation of a medical professional.
That being said 'clesnding' has been disproven scientifically so many times, I think there must be a Necromancer for bad nutritional myths out there. I just can't understand why this myth (together with others) always comes back from the grave.
Regarding vegans. Yes a primarily plant-based diet has been shown in studies to be beneficial to health. Depending on the environment of the test subjects. For practical purposes in western/northern societies that holds true.
The important word is plant based. Because without either taking extreme care of the (especially) micro nutrients as a vegan you either need to substitute or be extra cautious. And of omnivores with a primarily plant based diet also look at their nutritional balance, caloric intake and such, the difference between diets in the studied groups vanished.
So one could say if eating primarily plant based and being mindful of our diet and nutritional needs, there is no difference scientifically.
The only remaining difference is one of personal values and believes. The question of how (or if) do we want to have animals treated to firm our diet. Personally I would add to look at how do we want the humans in the food production chain treated as well and how do we want our diets to have an ecological impact.
But as said - these are existential because deeply personal value questions that can't be scientifically discussed.
Is it known if the meat causes people to die sooner, or is it just that people who are vegan are correlated with people who care about their health so they do other things that cause the 10 year effect?
I feel like a non-lethal poison like a flea killer or something would cause a 10 year lifespan drop, so it would be surprising if meat were as deadly as flea killer poison.
I'd guess the lack of processed foods is a big part of it. Until recently if you were vegan you pretty much had to make everything from scratch. I'd also guess that the average vegan is more health conscious than the average meat eater.
When compared with the SAD standard american diet, any diet intervention (short of eating double portions of the SAD) is going yield positive results.
I hear this is a very dangerous game if taken to an extreme. You have to be very disciplined once you take it beyond 3 days. David Blaine did it for 44 days and I believe he has liver damage now? He talks about it on Joe Rogan.
Professional athletes cut for several days quite often. It’s well researched area.
But better way for regular people is just do OMAD. You get used to it after first three days, which are brutal. So, strong motivation is required, but still easier than real cut for bodybuilders or fighters.
> Vegans live on average 10 year longer!
Interesting if it's actually true. I doubt there are any good studies about that, though.