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Comment by ahmedalsudani

4 years ago

No questions yet as I am yet to read ... but I can already comment and say grade A title.

It's a bit opinionated. It's meant to get a reaction, but also to have meaningful and thought-provoking content, and I think it's correct in the main too. Anyways, hope you and others enjoy it.

  • That was a great read. Thank you for writing it up; I learned quite a few things!

    Especially appreciated the OS minutiae and opinionated commentary (... and the doc vs reality observation in Linux's vfork).

    The piece lives up to the great title :)

  • What do you mean by zones/jails and why are they better than containers?

    • Zones -> Solaris/Illumos Zones

      Jails -> BSD jails

      They're software VMs. It's a lot like containers, yes.

      The problem with containers is that the construction toolkit for them is subtractive ("start by cloning my environment, then remove / replace various namespaces"), while the construction toolkit for zones/jails is additive ("start with an empty universe, and add namespaces or share them with the parent").

      Constructing containers subtractively means that every time there's a new kind of namespace to virtualize, you have to update all container-creating tools or risk a security vulnerability.

      Constructing containers additively from an empty universe means that every time there's a new kind of namespace to virtualize, you have to update all container-creating tools or risk not getting sharing that you want (i.e., breakage).

      I'm placing a higher value on security. Maybe that's a bad choice. It's not like breaking is a good thing -- it might be just as bad as creating a security vulnerability.

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