Comment by echelon
5 years ago
> I'm not complaining. While I did try to fight against the regime since its beginning, I could've done more. We screwed this up, and we're responsible, and all the inconveniences we might have cannot be compared to the suffering of people of Ukraine. Just saying.
I'm so sorry you have to live under these conditions. You don't need to compare yourself to the suffering of the Ukrainian people. You're also in pain.
Have you thought about leaving? Can you and your family and friends easily emigrate?
I hope the best for you too.
"Have you thought about leaving? Can you and your family and friends easily emigrate?"
When you have real family and friend connection - you can never "easily emigrate". There is always a relative to a relative and a close friend with relatives, which adds up quickly and the bigger the group, the harder to move or find asylum at all. And which state would be willing to welcome russians, when there is so much talk again about collective punishment?
And how to get your assets out, when both the russian state as well as the western states are trying to block exactly this?
I doubt there is an "easy way" for ordinary people to get out.
Anti-Putin Russians leaving the country only plays into Putin's hands. It would be like a Stalinist purge without the bloodshed.
A giant brain drain of scientists, engineers, doctors, civil servants... would surely weaken Russia in the long term – even if Putin might celebrate it as a help to consolidating his power.
And even if it didn't result in a backlash that removes Putin from power, chipping away at Russia's economic, technology, and military/industrial strength still greatly reduces his ability to wage more wars of aggression in the future.
There were surveys years ago reporting that more than half of Russia's youth would like to emigrate. I doubt it is easy.
ETA: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-politics-emigratio...
Most of the EU countries has stopped issuing visas. We’re really stuck between two equally hostile political forces pursuing their interests.
>We’re really stuck between two equally hostile political forces pursuing their interests at any cost.
I know. It's awful. If we can't get Russia to stop attacking Ukraine with bombs, tanks, guns and missiles, perhaps we could convince the EU to stop bombing Ukraine? Oh, wait...
Or we can prevent ordinary Russians from leaving the country ruining their economy at the same time, pushing them into the civil war …
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No. Not "equally" hostile AT ALL
Here you can see how effective propaganda is. Even when the facts are there for all to see it still work to a degree that people will take those memes and spit them back out as their own.
"Equally hostile"? Seriously?
I can understand. You are comparing the situations in the both countries from the outside and situation in the Ukraine is much worse. But from the inside I have to face severe consequences from the both sides for what I haven't done, don't support and essentially have nothing to do with.
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