Comment by seanclayton
5 years ago
> That hurts ordinary people yes, but - this is a war. Better an economic hit than being bombed or shot.
40,000+ people died in Venezuela because of sanctions.
[0]: https://cepr.net/press-release/report-finds-us-sanctions-on-...
This is an super exaggerated number to attributte only to sactions, our TOTALITARIAN REGIME actions killed those people and the reality is that sanctions just helped them
Before the sanctions, (that started in 2015), we had already huge economical problems (and problems of kinds), mainly due the goverment focusing on making one of the greatest corruption acts of all times [1] and focusing on systematically making the venezuelan population poorer, sicker, hungrier and dependant, in order to keep the power and keep stealing money.
The thing is, sanctions did absolutelly NOTHING in favour of venezuelans citizens and their freedom, in fact, they made it easier for the Venezuelan totalitarian regime to justificate their acts (forcing hunger, violating human rights [2], etc) and made it stronger in a way that since our country got alienated, we got more support from other totalirian regimes such as China and Rusia.
So hurting the ordinary people, as that post say, was just putting an extra nail to the coffin of every venezuelan that died of hunger and sickness.. Was just encouraging more people to fight for freedoom with rocks vs guns and died or got detained [3] [4]...
All for nothing, and 6 years later, over 300billions usd stolen later, 2.000.000% hyperinflation later, 7.000.000 venezuelans gone later, over 400 people killed in protest later, over 5,000 political detentions later, the govt is still there and... blocking venezuelans from using stripe, transferwise, etc, is going to help us haha ..
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Venezuela
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Venezuela
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_protests_(2014%E2%8...
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Venezuelan_protests
If sanctions kill any amount of people greater than zero makes it a deadly weapon against innocent people and should never be used. Additionally, anyone who uses sanctions should be considered committing an act of terrorism because of their intended effect being killing innocent civilians.
By that reasoning the west would never have invaded Nazi Germany. Lots of innocent people on both sides died in that invasion, and yet the world is now a better place because of it.
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Luckily sanctions don't directly kill anyone so it's not an issue.
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So you want NATO to start bombing Russia, or...?
I'm firmly anti-war so that means I'm anti-bombing as well as being anti-sanctioning.
Do you have any proposal as to what the rest of the world should do while Russia brutalizes a country it has no business in attacking? It's definitely not a "defeat them in the marketplace of ideas" kind of situation.
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The easiest of all positions to take.
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