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Comment by achikin

5 years ago

Most of the EU countries has stopped issuing visas. We’re really stuck between two equally hostile political forces pursuing their interests.

>We’re really stuck between two equally hostile political forces pursuing their interests at any cost.

I know. It's awful. If we can't get Russia to stop attacking Ukraine with bombs, tanks, guns and missiles, perhaps we could convince the EU to stop bombing Ukraine? Oh, wait...

  • Or we can prevent ordinary Russians from leaving the country ruining their economy at the same time, pushing them into the civil war …

    • One of these things is not like the others.

      Invading a country != denying visas to citizens of a country that's doing the invading.

      Stay where you are and you may be murdered by an invading force != stay where you are and deal with the results of sanctions.

      Both are definitely bad, but they are in no way equivalent.

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No. Not "equally" hostile AT ALL

  • Here you can see how effective propaganda is. Even when the facts are there for all to see it still work to a degree that people will take those memes and spit them back out as their own.

"Equally hostile"? Seriously?

  • I can understand. You are comparing the situations in the both countries from the outside and situation in the Ukraine is much worse. But from the inside I have to face severe consequences from the both sides for what I haven't done, don't support and essentially have nothing to do with.

    • OK, I see what you mean.

      What is severe about switching registrars for you?

      I know the other sanctions are extremely painful for the Russian people, but I think of it like this: you are the victim of an economic war, and it is the alternative to a physical war, where you would be bombed to death.

      I would say that both sides of the pain you're feeling (from NATO and from Russia) are both Putin's fault.

    • For my personal perspective, I do have empathy for you (genuinely), but I still wholeheartedly support the forced deterioration of your economy if it either contributes to regime change or reduces your country's ability to wage conventional war (and I believe at least one of those outcomes is a plausible consequence).

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