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Comment by __turbobrew__

5 years ago

As other commentators have said this statement is tautological.

Russians could same something to the same tune: “how many territories have we invaded that don’t have Russian heritage” and you get a similar tautological statement.

I find it surprising that people can be against Russia invading Ukraine but in the same sentence still legitimize the United State’s numerous invasions in other countries.

Except they can’t because there are quantified indexes and criteria the world has agreed upon to describe democracy, freedom and human rights. Anyone attempting to equate the US, by every definition a democracy with economic and political freedoms, to Russia is not an honest attempt. If the US invaded Canada or some nation that met the definitions of a free, democratic, society you’d have a point but they haven’t which is my point.

I can be against the Russian invasion of Ukraine and point out that the nations the US invaded were authoritarian in nature. I never said I supported US invasions just that they are not the same. We can also just drop the Cold War and start from 1990, since we’re comparing Russia and the US here, and you’ll see that Russia has invaded multiple democracies now (Georgia and Ukraine) while the US quite literally hasn’t. Whataboutism is dumb but it’s especially dumb when the thing you are whatabouting isn’t even close to the same. Overthrowing Saddam or the Taliban is nowhere near the same as invading a democracy because you’re afraid you won’t be able to dominate your neighbors anyone once they join the democratic alliance that was built to prevent you doing just that.