Comment by gruez
4 years ago
>Question though, do the founders here have any potential criminal liability from this whole situation (including apparently lying about what they were doing with their customers funds)?
While they're not exactly forthcoming with the risks, their marketing pages[1] were also careful to not make any explicit claims of safety (eg. "your principal is protected", or "you won't lose money"). The most that they claimed were "stable" returns. For good measure there's also a disclaimer mentioning the risks.
>There is a range of safeguards in place to help secure your deposits, however holding and depositing stablecoins with Stablegains and third party lending platforms still carries significant risk. Please carefully read our Terms of Use and Risk disclosures in our Learning Center before making a deposit. Any deposit with Stablegains and third party lending platforms is entirely your responsibility. You understand that your principal is at risk.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220108232821/https://www.stabl...
> careful to not make any explicit claims of safety (eg. "your principal is protected", or "you won't lose money").
These are both explicit examples of explicit claims of safety that are still up on their documentation (at least as of 5 minutes ago)
- "You will not lose your funds because all loans are 100% asset-backed." (https://stablegains.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402680425...)
- "Regardless if crypto markets are soaring or crashing, the value of assets under our management remains stable." (https://stablegains.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402687671...)
Edit: Updating link to fix truncated urls
And now those are gone.
These people need to be in jail. Deleting evidence isn't going to look good in front of the judge.
In this case it's just sloppy copy pasting (copying the truncated link?) breaking the link. The original links from his other comment still works:
https://stablegains.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402680425...
https://stablegains.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402687671...
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Until they are given notice of a judicial proceedings, they don't have an obligation to retain evidence. (There is an exception that doesn't appear to apply here.)
oh. my. god.
Everyone pour one out for u/ushakov, hero of the hour: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31462674
Thanks for unearthing this. In light of this, I'll admit it looks pretty bad for them.
The pages are gone... That was too fast.
See my other comment, the links were just improperly pasted, not taken down.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31462851