OP is also raising the point that because only the police have the ability to retrieve Nest footage that pertains to them but is not owned by them, access to that data is gated by the police, who may not use that access evenly.
Coming from a small-ish area, how does this happen? Do they say "no" and then offer you the door, or how does it normally go? I assume it could be a manpower issue, if it is a city with more pressing issues, or a city without a detective unit maybe, but outright saying no is hard to justify. I can't imagine a situation that would make it normal to just say no with a straight face.
Manpower seems the most likely explanation. I have a friend who works in a bike shop. Recently, the shop was broken into and $20K+ worth of high end bikes were stolen, plus a fair amount of damage to the shop.
The next day, they found someone offering to sell the same bikes online (in the same geographical area even). They gave this info to the police, basically "hey here is someone trying to sell known stolen property" and the police told them to try and set up a meeting with the sellers themselves! Called back a week later, still had not even
assigned a detective.
$20k is not pocket change, so it does make me wonder exactly what kinds of property crimes they do investigate, if any.
It's not a coincidence cops spend a large portion of their time busting consensual drug users and enforcing traffic laws (while armed to the teeth). That's where the money is. Helping find my stolen computer is way more difficult and provides the department with nothing of value.
I live in Chicago. It’s not uncommon for police to just not show up when you call in a non violent property crime. If that happens you can go to the station and fill out a report but they won’t actually do any investigating. Sometimes they’ll be honest and say this isn’t going to go anywhere, but usually you’ll just get ghosted.
Here in Boulder most property crimes are ignored by the police. They'll file a report to give to your insurance company, but they'll flat out tell you that they're not going to do anything.
I think it's a few things contributing to it. First is not having enough man power. And also a lot of stuff isn't worth the expense of investigating. A stolen laptop, phone, or bike just isn't worth the cost of detectives hunting it down. $20k of police work to get a $1000 laptop doesn't make much sense.
> I assume it could be a manpower issue, if it is a city with more pressing issues, or a city without a detective unit maybe, but outright saying no is hard to justify.
Why would they need to justify anything? They have no one to answer to. Look at groups like the Uvalde police who are internationally known fuckups at this point and they’re still just throwing other people under the bus left and right in response. The police only do their job when they feel like it and that’s usually never unless it’s writing down that they went to guard a construction site for the overtime pay.
They get more state funding, grants and incentives for focusing on things like drug crimes. Enforcement and investigation of crimes are completely at their discretion, so they choose to go after "sexier" and "fun" crimes and criminals.
Hmm, I think you're right. I was confused by the phrase "warrant or no", thinking it meant hedora had tried to get data both with and without a warrant and neither worked.
Since when does police issue warrants? A warrant is issued by a judge, unless it somehow works differently in the US. I assume police just didn't do anything with that warrant.
He is saying that the police weren't interested investigating crimes.
OP is also raising the point that because only the police have the ability to retrieve Nest footage that pertains to them but is not owned by them, access to that data is gated by the police, who may not use that access evenly.
Coming from a small-ish area, how does this happen? Do they say "no" and then offer you the door, or how does it normally go? I assume it could be a manpower issue, if it is a city with more pressing issues, or a city without a detective unit maybe, but outright saying no is hard to justify. I can't imagine a situation that would make it normal to just say no with a straight face.
Manpower seems the most likely explanation. I have a friend who works in a bike shop. Recently, the shop was broken into and $20K+ worth of high end bikes were stolen, plus a fair amount of damage to the shop.
The next day, they found someone offering to sell the same bikes online (in the same geographical area even). They gave this info to the police, basically "hey here is someone trying to sell known stolen property" and the police told them to try and set up a meeting with the sellers themselves! Called back a week later, still had not even assigned a detective.
$20k is not pocket change, so it does make me wonder exactly what kinds of property crimes they do investigate, if any.
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It's not a coincidence cops spend a large portion of their time busting consensual drug users and enforcing traffic laws (while armed to the teeth). That's where the money is. Helping find my stolen computer is way more difficult and provides the department with nothing of value.
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I live in Chicago. It’s not uncommon for police to just not show up when you call in a non violent property crime. If that happens you can go to the station and fill out a report but they won’t actually do any investigating. Sometimes they’ll be honest and say this isn’t going to go anywhere, but usually you’ll just get ghosted.
Here in Boulder most property crimes are ignored by the police. They'll file a report to give to your insurance company, but they'll flat out tell you that they're not going to do anything.
I think it's a few things contributing to it. First is not having enough man power. And also a lot of stuff isn't worth the expense of investigating. A stolen laptop, phone, or bike just isn't worth the cost of detectives hunting it down. $20k of police work to get a $1000 laptop doesn't make much sense.
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> I assume it could be a manpower issue, if it is a city with more pressing issues, or a city without a detective unit maybe, but outright saying no is hard to justify.
Why would they need to justify anything? They have no one to answer to. Look at groups like the Uvalde police who are internationally known fuckups at this point and they’re still just throwing other people under the bus left and right in response. The police only do their job when they feel like it and that’s usually never unless it’s writing down that they went to guard a construction site for the overtime pay.
They get more state funding, grants and incentives for focusing on things like drug crimes. Enforcement and investigation of crimes are completely at their discretion, so they choose to go after "sexier" and "fun" crimes and criminals.
Hmm, I think you're right. I was confused by the phrase "warrant or no", thinking it meant hedora had tried to get data both with and without a warrant and neither worked.
Since when does police issue warrants? A warrant is issued by a judge, unless it somehow works differently in the US. I assume police just didn't do anything with that warrant.
Police request warrants. Judges approve and sign said warrants and they then become legally executable.