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Comment by closedloop129

3 years ago

>Quantum computing is in a similar position today

I don't think that the position is similar. The level of 'ingenuity' of the overall system was lower. Fewer men were needed to understand each and every aspect of the system.

Now, each scientist is more specialized which means that they individually see less of the system. Additionally, the system is more complex. Together, this means that many more scientists have to be coordinated to make progress.

This is further complicated by knowledge protections. Bell Labs most likely had all relevant patents and copy rights. To reach the same level of fluidity of knowledge, an additional army of patent lawyers is needed.

An additional problem is that targeting quantum computer specifically takes away from the idea of 'no deadlines, objectives or progress reports'. This will be especially a problem in those proposed 'focused research organizations'.

What I don't want to understand is how Google could come so close and fail. They have 10% projects and moonshots. They have the monopoly-like income stream to fund it. But instead of creating progress, their products seem to get worse and worse.

How could one sustainably fund something like Bell Labs with company profits?

*edit: The more interesting question: Since the target of the Bell Labs, the 'universal connectivity' has been achieved, do we still need centralized labs for the next relevant innovations? Doesn't universal connectivity give us the potential to come up with something better? I believe that a social network is missing that is built to create scientific progress.

> What I don't want to understand is how Google could come so close and fail. They have 10% projects and moonshots. They have the monopoly-like income stream to fund it. But instead of creating progress, their products seem to get worse and worse.

They sell information and ads. Most of their products are targeted towards that.

And ads give the client zero added value. It's not a product, it's not a utility nor a tool.

Many of their products are oriented towards that. And it's hard to produce good inventions when your business model is basically dark patterns.

> a social network is missing that is built to create scientific progress

Like a Royal Society?

  • That would be very exclusive, wouldn't it?

    The problem is that 'every mathematician has only a few tricks' [1]. This means that every scientific problem should be exposed to as many scientists as possible, coordinated in a way that maximizes the number of tricks that are tried.

    To me, this suggests that something like the TikTok algorithm should bring scientists and problems together. The problem is that each problem is not a 30 second video that is easy to consume, but a problem that requires some amount of studying before it is approachable.

    There is most likely not much to invent, e.g. there is already stack exchange to answer questions, and Khan Academy to gain basic knowledge, but like YT before TikTok, there is no algorithm that brings it all together.

    [1] https://mathoverflow.net/questions/363119/every-mathematicia...