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Comment by makeee

4 years ago

How is this censorship? They are a company and can do business with whoever they please. They are drawing the line at imminent threats to human life. The site has already led to the deaths of multiple people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassm...

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tstrimple  4 years ago

Somehow it's Freedom when a company refuses to make a cake for a gay couple, but Tyranny if a company providing hosting and DDOS protection services decide not to work with a company who explicitly violates their terms of service.

  • dagmx  4 years ago

    Edit: ignore me, I mistakenly swapped the subjects when reading the comment and misunderstood what they were saying.

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    One is denying service based on a protected class , the other is denying service based on a risk of violence.

    How can you consider them equivalent?

    • tstrimple  4 years ago

      I'm not saying they are equivalent. I'm saying that all the people screaming that this is tyranny hold very different views on denying other people services based on a protected class. I'm pointing out how silly it is to be okay with a baker refusing gay customers but thinking this is the end of freedom on the internet.

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rejectfinite  4 years ago

>The site has already led to the deaths of multiple people

So has Instagram (by far!), FB, Discord, Twitter and site or program where people can type.

  • skyyler  4 years ago

    The difference is kiwifarms was built to harass people; those other platforms were not.

    • raxxorraxor  4 years ago

      Kiwifarms deserve no love, but this argument doesn't add up the slightest. Instagram was founded to make money from its users, so why would I allow it to operate if people kill themselves because of the peer pressure displayed in such social networks?

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raxxorraxor  4 years ago

Is it really so hard to understand that it is still censorship even if it is legal?

There is censorship even if there are no Romans anymore. It is a concept, not a very complex one at that. A bit of abstraction is the daily bread of many users probably...

greaterthan3  4 years ago

>How is this censorship? They are a company and can do business with whoever they please.

Just because a private company does it, doesn't mean it isn't censorship. Of course, you may argue that it's in a good cause, but nonetheless, it's still censorship.

I feel XKCD 1357 has greatly contributed to the degradation of the discourse on this topic. The concept of free speech is not synonymous with the legal protections provided by American law.