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Comment by cowtools

4 years ago

I genuinely believe that it's entirely possible to be seen as very neutral and also just ban anyone I disagree with or who even just annoys me.

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mschuster91  4 years ago

Being neutral with Nazis is supporting them, period. We've seen in 1933-45 where staying neutral or appeasing them leads to.

Nazis need to be fought everywhere, otherwise their cancerous ideology just grows.

  • slumpt_  4 years ago

    It is so disappointing seeing you be downvoted for sentiments like this. The neurodivergent and unempathetic nature of this forum really rears its head from time to time.

  • Kamq  4 years ago

    You've picked a very specific time period here (1933-1945). I presume this is because that is the period where the Nazis were in control of Germany.

    This might be an apt comparison if the groups in question controlled a government, but I fear you're forgetting how the Nazis got there. The NSDAP spent a good chunk of the 20s holding large rallies in places they weren't welcome and inciting the local populace until fights broke out (there's a particularly famous brawl that happened in the Wedding district of Berlin). Then they used the resulting media coverage to justify building up a large para-military force (the SA and later the SS) in a weird form of political judo.

    I worry that actions like the one cloudflare has taken add to the appeal for a certain type of people for fighting giant organizations as the underdog. There are certain organizations and/or events where fighting against them gives them the publicity they need to attract recruits and succeed.

    You should also be careful because we seem to be going into a recession and the right generally benefits from such times (and immediately after). Giving them extra publicity might be a very bad idea.

    Sci-Hub link about the right thriving during economic recessions/depressions: https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.euroecorev.2016.03.006

  • inawarminister  4 years ago

    I agree with you, we also see the same WRT communists.

    Murderous antiquated ideologies should be eradicated from the modern world.

    • danaris  4 years ago

      Communist ideology has nothing to do with murder. It is 100% an economic ideology, and primarily about equality.

      Some countries that called themselves communist, and attempted to implement parts of communism, also committed mass murders. But that doesn't reflect on communism as an ideology any more than the actions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea reflect on democracy.

      What a country calls themselves and what they actually are don't always bear any resemblance to each other, and decades of US propaganda notwithstanding, "communism" and "socialism" have absolutely nothing to do with mass murder or authoritarianism.

      On the other hand, Nazi ideology is very much about murder, and about forcing anyone who isn't The Master Race into second-class citizen status (or worse).

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