Comment by tjpnz
3 years ago
What's the endgame here? Because the site's not going anywhere and everything that's happened has only emboldened their user base. There's likely to be unintended consequences too with even less scrupulous and accountable operators popping up to offer their services to sites like Kiwi Farms. They're not going to have any shortage of customers going forward.
The endgame appears to be the complete elimination of KF and all copies of it.
They might claim that its mere existence psychologically harms marginalized people, but it seems that their real goal is more about power. You get a ton of clout by both appearing as a marginalized person under attack as well as winning victories over enemies. Right now, Keffals and another person are fighting over who gets to take credit for this.
The more long-term goal is to establish a precedent that sites that are "harmful" are simply not allowed to be on the internet. This will serve as an example to any ISP that might consider hosting them or anyone like them in the future. All it will take is someone finding the site, reporting it to Keffals and gang, and the mob flooding their CDNs, data centers, upstreams, and business partners with demands to either deplatform or be deplatformed themselves.
There's currently no defense against the "Layer 8 DDoS".
The goal seems to be to erase all mention of any bad behavior on the part of the people campaigning against kiwifarms. Possibly to erase evidence of criminal activity.
If there's evidence of criminal activity on Keffals (or others) part, the police would have it. KF having a copy doesn't serve any legal benefit. And if the evidence is credible enough, then the police will charge and arrest her, and the evidence will be released during the trial.
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The same could be said of 8chan doxxers and harassers.
It turns out that when you mess with people's lives, those people fight back. Stop doxxing people and harassing them if you want business partners to host your forums.
You smother their 'community'. It's a last ditch effort that should be used rarely, but this isn't the first time something like this happened, and it won't be the last.
But the site is going anywhere; it's going lots of places, in fact. They can't find a host that will both accept them and can handle the DDoS, so they've been bouncing around between domains and hosts. This is the kind of instability that destroys online communities, which in this case is good.