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Comment by scarface74

3 years ago

It’s not Apple that you have to worry about not supporting the full spec - they already do with USB C iPads.

It’s the Android manufacturers and your local convenience store. Meaning it is still “contributing to ewaste” when you can’t use your old USB C cords to get all of the functionality that is part of the USB C spec.

This is yet another example of EU regulators not thinking through their proposals — see also the GDPR whose only consequence is a bunch of cookie pop ups.

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lamontcg  3 years ago

> see also the GDPR whose only consequence is a bunch of cookie pop ups.

well that's just wrong.

  • scarface74  3 years ago

    So exactly what did it accomplish? Did it affect Facebook or Google at all or any adTech company?

    When ATT was implemented by Apple, many ad tech companies announced it impacted them. You didn’t hear a whisper after the GDPR. Websites just started putting up annoying cookie banners and life continued.

    • simion314  3 years ago

      What do you want exactly? Make tracking illegal? Make advertising illegal?

      The law demands you ask the user for consent, if it made tracking illegal people would complain about their freedom to sell their private data for cat pictures.

      There are consequences for GDPR, maybe you did not see any but I can assure you that there were news about fines and you can Google for that. I can also inform you that at my work place GDPR also had an effect.

      What you need is browser makers to get involved and improve the situation, I am sure you would have hated EU to tell you how to implement a ""do not tack" in your browser. The main issue is that Chrome is controlled by Google and they don't want to help with privacy. But who knows maybe your favorite company Apple will push and implement a consent for tracking API .

      Btw here in EU GDPR also has effect in real world, just an example before GDPR you would get exam results published publicly with names, now you get a serial number and instead of names the results will ahve this serial number, nobody will know what your results are. Same if you go to a clinic to do a blood tests, they need to give you a paper and specify exactly what they will do with your data.

      Big tech is trying to avoid doing the right thing as much as possible but they will pay larger and larger fines until they will have to respect the users.

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falcolas  3 years ago

I'm sorry, but I don't see how we can lay the blame for corporations cutting corners on completely unrelated legislation.

I get that there can be unintended consequences with passed legislation, but these seem too disconnected to be relevant. As in, there have been substandard USB-C cables since USB-C first came out.

The existence of those cables can't be laid at the feet of requiring Apple to use USB-C on the one remaining device they offer which doesn't use USB-C.

  • scarface74  3 years ago

    > I'm sorry, but I don't see how we can lay the blame for corporations cutting corners on completely unrelated legislation.

    You mean the same legislation that can enforce USB C can’t enforce a minimum standard for USB C:

    - must support USB 3 speeds

    - must support video over USB and a certain minimum standard (this is a standard)

    - etc?