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Comment by scarface74

3 years ago

So how well are the USB C cables going to work that follow the minimum “mandate” that doesn’t require cables to support data at all? How well are they going to work when people pick up a “USB C” cable and wonder why they aren’t seeing video when they connect their phone to their TV?

Not very well, but you can buy decent cables from a variety of manufacturers for cheap, and there isn't this one license-holder (Apple) out there trying to take a big cut from that. If someone wants to make a good Lightning cable for cheap, first they have to break the law by skipping the licensing deal, then they have to get around Apple's own mechanisms.

  • It doesn’t prevent “ewaste” if phone makers (mostly low end Android phone makers) still bundle shoddy cables, stores are still allowed to sell shoddy cables, etc.

    And USB C is not free of licensing requirements

    https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/450494/are-u...

    A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker Lightning cable.

    A random USB C cable doesn’t support video over USB - something I need for my portable secondary display.

    The iPads with USB C already support this. I have no reason to believe that the next iPhone won’t.

    • > A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker Lightning cable.

      But the Lightning cable won't support high speed data. And if you want video over Lightning you can't just use a cable, you need an adapter with an embedded computer to decompress the output.

      A USB C cable that has the same capabilities as that Lightning cable is 2-3 dollars.

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    • It's not free, but it's cheap. A good USB-C cable costs less than $5, not $15. You hardly ever need a good one either, just one for charging.

      Re ewaste, that's a different topic. I'm just talking about licensing fees.

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> So how well are the USB C cables going to work that follow the minimum “mandate” that doesn’t require cables to support data at all?

Citation needed? I think those are below the minimum.

> How well are they going to work when people pick up a “USB C” cable and wonder why they aren’t seeing video when they connect their phone to their TV?

They probably feel similar to people with lightning cables.

  • > They probably feel similar to people with lightning cables.

    Lightning supports video. Or were you just making a joke about how unreliable it is? Cause man, I can't even charge my phone sometimes.

    • Lightning doesn't support video over mere cables. You need a complicated adapter that decompresses the video sent by the device. It's like a tiny streaming setup.

      If you just pick up a generic lightning cable, you're not getting video.

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